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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: The West Side
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Deshaun Watson to Browns
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sorta mod-ish
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: KC North
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#707 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Aug 2008
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I kind of wonder if this is a desperation move because watsons arm looks like it’s falling apart and stefanski and a lot of the browns regime are starting to face the pressure of justifying this cursed move |
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You gotta kill a few people
Join Date: Sep 2007
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I think that’s why the owners most definitely colluded afterward in declining to give Lamar a fully guaranteed contract. |
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#709 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Deshaun still gets paid the same so it doesn’t affect him. Cap wise they just take the hit for that money later Last edited by chiefzilla1501; Today at 09:38 AM.. |
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Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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I mean, in theory they could trade him if they attached a 1st rounder or something to him, but they'd take an $80 million dead cap charge to do it. They haven't really done anything to make that any more or less manageable. No, they'd pretty much have to eat giant buckets of shit to get him moved. Which they really shouldn't be doing at/near the back end of Garrett's prime years. They seem to be setting themselves up to push in over the next 2-3 seasons rather than get out of Watson's deal. Then bottom out in 2027. |
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#711 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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This looks to me like an effort to push as much of his money as possible into his void years in 2027 and 2028 before having to take their medicine then while trying to open their window as wide as possible from '24 through '26. I mean they have a $37 million cap charge for a 32 year old Myles Garrett on a void year in '27. They're looking at a complete tear down in 2 seasons anyway. Might as well do what you can before that time gets here. |
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#712 |
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Wasn't long ago this moran was demanding to be some hybrid player\GM for the Texans.
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#713 |
Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
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Mahomes broke him during the 2nd quarter comeback.
Mahomes broke Josh Allen during the 13 second game. Mahomes probably broke Lamar during the AFCCG (we'll see). Mahomes probably broke Glass Joe Burrow during the '22 playoffs. |
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#714 |
Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Galveston, TX
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The Mistake by the Lake keeps mistaking...
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#715 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Aug 2008
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This contract is so rough that they’ll probably have to either take a year or 2 where they pay him record high money. Or is it possible by the end of the contract they’ll be forced to extend the contract a few more years just so they can spread the cap charge out even more. All for a guy whose arm may be too dead to even make it through this year let alone for 4+ years |
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Consuming CP souls
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: U.S.A.
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It's entirely possible they're both cooked within a few years |
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#717 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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Garret, Watson and Delpit will be responsible for $80 million in cap charges ON VOID YEARS. Denzel Ward will be cut for a $20 million cap savings but still carry $9 million in dead money. And that's without getting into the smaller deals. Za'Darius Smith, Dalvin Tomlinson, Njoku, Bitonio, Teller, Conklin, Thornhill, Wills, Okoronkwo and Pocic will all be in ther early/mid 30s (so long gone) and between those guys they'll suck up ANOTHER $40 million in dead cap on void years. $120 million in dead cap charges on void years in 2027. Yeah - that's real. And they have no business extending a single one of those players I named. So that money is all but locked in. Even if the cap continues to rise at a solid clip, that's likely to be 1/3 of their entire cap allocated to void seasons for guys that aren't likely to be on the roster. So let's say the cap is $300 million by then, they're going to start at $180 million BEFORE they absorb the dead money from Denzel Ward. If they don't have substantial carry-over, they'll be looking at needing to build a roster on about $3.5 million/player at a time when the minimum NFL salary is likely to be approaching $2 million. Made all the more difficult by the fact that Jerry Jeudy and JOK will take up another $20 million between the two of them. So they'll have $160 million to pay for 51 guys on the roster. They're ****ed in 2027. So they have to make things happen now. |
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#718 |
Politically Incorrect
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Dumb franchises do dumb things.
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#719 |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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They're already over the projected 2026 cap with all of 26 guys signed to contracts for 2026. So they're almost certainly cutting Ward in 2026 just to get themselves a little breathing room. They'll cut Dalvin Tomlinson and Jack Conklin by then as well. Those are fake figures so that'll get free up $40 million but they'll still need to come up with 30 more dudes to even put together an NFL roster.
They're heading into Saints territory. The more I look at this, the more I think they almost have to get an Aiyuk trade made and essentially move heaven and earth to try to win this year or next. Because things are going to get nasty in '26 and completely untenable by '27. |
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#720 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Aug 2008
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I mean, I credit them for taking a big swing and not just trying to Ryan Tannehill their way to a Super Bowl. It’s weird they didn’t take a sexual predator discount on the contract. But what really ****ed them and had to be unexpected was that he doesnt look like he really wants to play and more unexpectedly his arm just completely fell off his body.
If Watson was the qb they traded for in Houston, the browns with that defense and run game would have been tough. I think it’s more a sign of how absurdly cursed that team is. |
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