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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:33 PM   #6751
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Another telling bit from the KOMU article...

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When asked if he had the needed votes from the SEC presidents for an invite he replied, "I'll let them speak for themselves, we're reasonably clear about where we stand."
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:33 PM   #6752
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Hope this shit is done tomorrow or the next day....
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:49 PM   #6753
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KU and K-State won't be invited to the Big 10. Give it up people.
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:12 PM   #6754
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KU and K-State won't be invited to the Big 10. Give it up people.
I believe that was an MU fan that brought it up. I think you left something back in Wisconsin.
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:16 PM   #6755
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I believe that was an MU fan that brought it up. I think you left something back in Wisconsin.
I brought it up (a Nebaska fan).

It's just something I'd like to see if all the conferences implode, but I guess I'm in the minority. The northeastern schools don't intrigue me at all.
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:19 PM   #6756
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I believe that was an MU fan that brought it up. I think you left something back in Wisconsin.
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:26 PM   #6757
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I brought it up (a Nebaska fan).

It's just something I'd like to see if all the conferences implode, but I guess I'm in the minority. The northeastern schools don't intrigue me at all.
If the conference were to implode, obviously the B!G would be fantastic. And yes, their options might be limited. I'm quite content with the Big XII and am excited about the prospects of new members. Obviously, as a basketball fan, I'd like to see Louisville and I favor expanding to 12 with Cincinnati and WVU.

I think NU made a good decision for themselves, I just can't stand Bo's Pelini, so no offense meant towards the Husker fan base at large.

I know Texas wants to stay at 10, but is willing to go to 12 if they split the new divisions with Texas in one and OU in the other but remaining permanent cross division opponents. I'd like to see that plan. I actually think it would be good for the conference as a whole if there were two Texas schools in each division. Gives those former North schools something more to sell to recruits.

Maybe something like:

Texas
Baylor
KU
ISU
Cincinnati
WVU

Texas Tech
TCU
KSU
OU
OSU
Louisville

You could make KU and KSU permanent rivals as well. OU and OSU have to remain in the same division since OU is crossed with Texas.
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:44 PM   #6758
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We do have some realingment news to report and it effects one of the local teams. Oral Roberts is leaving UMKC's home league, Summit, for the Southland Conference.
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:50 PM   #6759
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I believe that was an MU fan that brought it up. I think you left something back in Wisconsin.
That'd be funny if your team didn't give up 50+ every week.
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That'd be funny if your team didn't give up 50+ every week.
No, its still funny. We don't make our reputation on football.
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No, its still funny. We don't make our reputation on football.
Yeah a reputation on losing to mid majors in a sport that doesn't count is the way to go. Wonder why no conferences have invited KU
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Yeah a reputation on losing to mid majors in a sport that doesn't count is the way to go. Wonder why no conferences have invited KU
Got one, don't need an invite.
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:07 AM   #6763
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If you read the full KOMU article with Deaton's quotes...it's CLEAR Mizzou is leaving, just a matter of time.
No no no.....KK's going to have a "field day".....uh, for some reason.
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Rumor on WVU boards is that the Big East exit penalty goes up by $5MM on Thursday. Anyone know if that is true?
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:15 AM   #6765
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Chuck Carlton tweet:

Hearing from Big 12 school sources that Missouri, Big 12 are negotiating legal issues, including departure date (2012 or '13) and exit fees.
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