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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:30 PM   #6601
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Rated by whom?


He was a far better WR coming out of college than Mecole. They missed.
Here you go:

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/terry-...7-b130ba0e8060

Mclaurin

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Weaknesses
Has build-up speed, but lacks early acceleration
Body catcher with below-average extension and high-pointing
Will need to intensify pace of his routes as a pro
Long strides hinder short-area work underneath
Lacks suddenness to separate from tight man
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mecole...0-d5597391d8c0

Mecole

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Only two seasons as receiver and is likely to rapidly develop
Too sudden to press
Rapid turnover when burning down the track
Early burst turns to pull-away speed on vertical routes

Smooth ball-tracker bringing it in over his shoulder
Combines speed/quickness to uncover on all three levels
Bouncy leaper
Wiggle to elude first tackle and speed to house it
Tough runner with ball in his hands. Explosive punt-return potential, averaging a little over 20 yards per return this year
Mecole's strengths were much more in line with trying to replace Hill with the thought that Tyreek was soon to be cut...

Based on the above you can see why Veach went with Mecole as a Tyreek fill in instead of McLaurin, despite McLaurin in hindsight, having a better career.
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:34 PM   #6602
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There is such universal consensus in this thread about the piss poor situation at WR, I think I'll fly a banner over Arrowhead.

======>TRADE FOR A #1 WR
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:42 PM   #6603
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Here you go:

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/terry-...7-b130ba0e8060

Mclaurin



https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mecole...0-d5597391d8c0

Mecole



Mecole's strengths were much more in line with trying to replace Hill with the thought that Tyreek was soon to be cut...

Based on the above you can see why Veach went with Mecole as a Tyreek fill in instead of McLaurin, despite McLaurin in hindsight, having a better career.
You can't just compare one players strengths to another players weaknesses. Terry was only SLIGHTLY slower than Mecole on speed drills and better at everything else.

Other than the fact they're both fast, I don't know how Mecole was compared to Tyreek. Their change of direction, route running, IQ and overall feel for the game are vastly different.
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:48 PM   #6604
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You can't just compare one players strengths to another players weaknesses. Terry was only SLIGHTLY slower than Mecole on speed drills and better at everything else.

Other than the fact they're both fast, I don't know how Mecole was compared to Tyreek. Their change of direction, route running, IQ and overall feel for the game are vastly different.
You're making this way more complicated than it has to be.

Andy values speed in his offense. He wants at least one of those guys. The second they thought Tyreek might be gone, they pivoted to Hardman. The second they traded Tyreek, they pivoted to MVS. At the very least, he wants the threat.
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:49 PM   #6605
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You can't just compare one players strengths to another players weaknesses. Terry was only SLIGHTLY slower than Mecole on speed drills and better at everything else.

Other than the fact they're both fast, I don't know how Mecole was compared to Tyreek. Their change of direction, route running, IQ and overall feel for the game are vastly different.
maybe try reading...

Mecole's strengths were more in line with filling the thought to be vacated Tyreek spot.

McClarins weaknesses were Tyreeks and Mecoles Strengths...
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:50 PM   #6606
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You're making this way more complicated than it has to be.

Andy values speed in his offense. He wants at least one of those guys. The second they thought Tyreek might be gone, they pivoted to Hardman. The second they traded Tyreek, they pivoted to MVS. At the very least, he wants the threat.
Terry ran a 4.35 40. That's not speed?
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:53 PM   #6607
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maybe try reading...

Mecole's strengths were more in line with filling the thought to be vacated Tyreek spot.

McClarins weaknesses were Tyreeks and Mecoles Strengths...
But you only took 1 strength and ignored everything else. And that one strength is BARELY better.

Mclauren ran a 4.35 40 with a 1.45 10 yard split.

Mecole ran a 4.33 40 with a 1.48 10 yard split.

So even the acceleration point doesn't stand up there cause Mclauren got up to speed faster. He was just a better prospect in every way.
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:58 PM   #6608
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Terry ran a 4.35 40. That's not speed?
I wasn't speaking to the McLaurin vs. Hardman comaprison/debate. Just explaining why they pivoted to Hardman.

What is the entire point of McLaurin? Yes, you can do this with every draft in hindsight, but McLaurin was not seen as the potential deep threat that Hardman was coming out. McLaurin was just a more polished WR with a higher floor.
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:59 PM   #6609
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But you only took 1 strength and ignored everything else. And that one strength is BARELY better.

Mclauren ran a 4.35 40 with a 1.45 10 yard split.

Mecole ran a 4.33 40 with a 1.48 10 yard split.

So even the acceleration point doesn't stand up there cause Mclauren got up to speed faster. He was just a better prospect in every way.
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

Do you have a single post saying this before the draft or before they stepped on an NFL field?

Turns out this whole draft thing is really easy when you get to operate in hindsight.
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Old 11-10-2023, 01:01 PM   #6610
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See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

Do you have a single post saying this before the draft or before they stepped on an NFL field?
No.
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Old 11-10-2023, 01:01 PM   #6611
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Then
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Old 11-10-2023, 01:04 PM   #6612
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See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

Do you have a single post saying this before the draft or before they stepped on an NFL field?

Turns out this whole draft thing is really easy when you get to operate in hindsight.
I do!
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Old 11-10-2023, 01:04 PM   #6613
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Then
I don't think that was the gotcha you think it was. But go off girl.
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Old 11-10-2023, 01:07 PM   #6614
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I'm sure you do, and I'm pretty sure MahomeMagic does too, I just know that dipshit King is 100% operating in hindsight.
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Old 11-10-2023, 01:09 PM   #6615
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I don't think that was the gotcha you think it was. But go off girl.
You don't get to talk about who was a much better "prospect" when your entire opinion is based on everything you've seen after years in the pros.

This is very simple logic, but of course you don't get it.
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