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11-07-2023, 03:59 PM | #6331 |
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Guys, I’m agreeing that Watson is open;’the drift doesn’t help, but at his break he’s definitely open. Not argument there.
I don’t see three other WRs open though. Gray is, if the protection holds up another second or so. And I don’t count the outlet; Pat almost never looks at the outlet anyway. And I don’t think anyone else counts the outlet either. Kurt Warner doesn’t for sure. |
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11-07-2023, 03:59 PM | #6332 | |
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11-07-2023, 04:24 PM | #6333 | |
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Put the ball in the air and he won't drift. He'll come back directly to the ball. you can see him turn, look for it, and then start to drift inside. The issues is that Mahomes didn't seem inclined to attempt to throw him open. And on 3rd and 20, I just don't know what he thought he was going to get. It's as high a degree of difficulty play as you're going to get - having that kind of space/time for Watson was, frankly, something of a gift born of really good play design. Reid/Nagy did their job. Watson did his up to the point of turning it into a bit of a scramble drill (by then I think Mahomes had essentially given up on running the play as designed anyway). The person who didn't was the guy holding the football. |
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11-07-2023, 04:35 PM | #6334 |
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Need more of this. Like alot more
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11-07-2023, 04:41 PM | #6335 | |
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I mean that Tyreek Hill whip route was easy money. 7 yards as simple as breathing. We have that twice/gm if we want it. And by using it, we set up exactly that quick slant. That's just right in Toney's wheelhouse and frankly he doesn't NEED to be in the slot to do them. Ideally he's not on the same side as Kelce because Kelce's going to draw attention that could gum some of that up. But you put him on the backside and you can run those plays even if he's split out wide. Andy's too smart to not know this. I think he's sitting on it. |
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11-07-2023, 04:45 PM | #6336 | |
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This would seem crazy for most other coaches but this is Reid. He is playing a game different than a Shanahan who mindlessly runs his stars into the wall 100 MPH in October. |
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11-07-2023, 04:45 PM | #6337 |
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Reid sure is sitting on a lot at this point.....
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11-07-2023, 04:50 PM | #6338 |
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11-07-2023, 05:08 PM | #6339 | |
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I'm not disagreeing with you. My only issue is I don't like the route; or maybe just how it was run. But I agree that not only was Watson open, but Pat should've also thrown it at Watson's break. If it was a timing route, 100%. I do question (a little anyway) if it really was a timing route. If it was, well, Pat's thrown a million timing routes, so I'd expect he would've thrown the ball there. It's not like Pat's become Russell Wilson this season. So, I wonder if maybe it wasn't a timing route, but something else that Pat was expecting? I guess it doesn't matter really. Regardless, it was the only option, so Mahomes should've taken it. I missed the game and haven't seen a replay or even highlights, so my question is, how many of these types of mistakes did Pat really make in this game? considering the season he's having, I'm guessing he's making a few per game (maybe), but his stats/advanced metrics say he's not making a ton of them? |
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11-07-2023, 05:39 PM | #6340 |
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11-07-2023, 05:50 PM | #6341 | |
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But that's literally the difference between being a top flight type offense and undefeated and a #15 type offense. Add in a drop here and there. Add in a handful of not making the right adjustments to their routes according to the defense's coverage. These are all correctable things, and for stretches they look like what we've come to expect Chiefs offenses to look like; and for stretches they look like "what the **** is THIS?" A lot of new parts, lot of young players, lot of not quite clicking. It's not as simple as THESE WR'S SUCK! |
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11-07-2023, 07:01 PM | #6342 | |
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I have a feeling that he threw the ball to Moore several times in this situation last year, and ended up throwing picks because Moore didn't do what Mahomes thought he was going to, so Mahomes just stopped throwing to receivers who didn't do what they were supposed to. |
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11-07-2023, 07:16 PM | #6343 |
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11-07-2023, 10:02 PM | #6344 | |
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11-08-2023, 07:20 AM | #6345 |
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Going into next offseason at WR though, I'm gonna guess they take a swing or two after this whole thing one way or another.
It probably will take trading and paying someone though. Aiyuk would be a choice but if I really wanted to make some waves I might call up the Cowboys about Ceedee |
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