Let's talk about the Cleveland Browns

[TLO]

Week 1.

Chiefs vs Browns.

Talk about it here.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

I consider the Bills contenders. I rate the Browns slightly below the Titan caliber teams

Oh I think they're better than The Titans. History says Henry will be far less productive and that team runs through him.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by eastsidedawg

Yea I'm sure they are going to win the next 5 superbowls right

Finally we’re on the same page. Congratulations!!

[eastsidedawg]

Originally Posted by milkshock

None of which makes any difference to us, as you need an elite qb to even think about threatening Mahomes/Reid.

Not sure if you’re serious about him being better than Allen in the future either - nothing he has shown in his body of work suggests he will.


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I would say give baker this year before you make any decisions on how good or bad he can be.

First time in year 2 in the same offense. See the 2nd year jumps guys have made in the Shanahan/ Kubiak offense over the years.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Finally we’re on the same page. Congratulations!!

Yeah, with the current crew 5 SBs isn't crazy talk

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by eastsidedawg

I would say give baker this year before you make any decisions on how good or bad he can be.

First time in year 2 in the same offense. See the 2nd year jumps guys have made in the Shanahan/ Kubiak offense over the years.

I guess the question would be why bring in a guy who runs a zone running scheme if your qb isn’t limited?

[eastsidedawg]

Originally Posted by New World Order

I guess the question would be why bring in a guy who runs a zone running scheme if your qb isn’t limited?

idk because it works 3 teams( atlanta, LA rams, SF) in the past 5 years have got to the super bowl without super elite QB's. not everyone has brady, mahomes, or rodgers.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by eastsidedawg

Yea I'm sure they are going to win the next 5 superbowls right

3 out of 5 isn't out of the question. Injuries happen like last year losing to an inferior Bucs team

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by eastsidedawg

idk because it works 3 teams( atlanta, LA rams, SF) in the past 5 years have got to the super bowl without super elite QB's. not everyone has brady, mahomes, or rodgers.

Baker isn't leading you to shit They also all....lost

[eastsidedawg]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

Baker isn't leading you to shit They also all....lost

I think he has a better chance than the chiefs this year.... you ready for that superbowl hangover?

It would be against all odds to make 3 superbowls in a row let alone making it back after losing one... that's a double buzzkill for KC.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Originally Posted by eastsidedawg

idk because it works 3 teams( atlanta, LA rams, SF) in the past 5 years have got to the super bowl without super elite QB's. not everyone has brady, mahomes, or rodgers.

Matt Ryan was MVP that season.
The Rams only got there because of the worst missed call in NFL history.
SF had one of the better defenses in the last 10 years or so.

I hope you're not banking on one of those things happening...

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by milkshock

Not sure if you’re serious about him being better than Allen in the future either - nothing he has shown in his body of work suggests he will.


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Well, except for not doing unbelievably dumb things like run backwards 30 yards and take a sack? Or the fact that Allen has basically only proven that h can throw the ball to Diggs a lot, and not really anyone else?

Baker was always a better decision-maker, less apt to do really dumb things under pressure, throws with nearly the same velocity, is more accurate ovralll, and throws with more anticipation since day 1.

But other than that, Allen might be a better QB down the road. Once he figures out how to do all those things Baker already knows how to do/not to do.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Because your boy under center needs the run to set up the pass

That is insanity to blame the Browns, Minny, or Tennessee for giving the ball to playmakers. That’s WILD.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Chiefs week 1: *Perform titty slamming on Cleveland Browns*

Browns week 1: *Get titty slammed*

Sunday evening: *Rest of NFL weeps*

Week 2-18: *Same thing happens to the next stupid jerks who play the Chuefs*

The end.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by milkshock

None of which makes any difference to us, as you need an elite qb to even think about threatening Mahomes/Reid.

Not sure if you’re serious about him being better than Allen in the future either - nothing he has shown in his body of work suggests he will.


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Just a menu of Allen's worst plays (things Baker has never done at any level or even approached a similar level of tardedness)

1. Facing a first-and-10 on Buffalo’s second drive, Allen scrambled for an easy 9 yards. But unsure of how to get the 10th yard, Allen dove headfirst sideways toward the sideline. This provided neither the protection of sliding feet first nor the yards gained by sliding headfirst. Texans cornerback Bradley Roby, who will be a recurring character in this tale, punched the ball out of Allen’s hands, and Houston recovered.

2. On second-and-20 on Buffalo’s second drive, Allen called a timeout to avoid a delay of game. Coming out of the timeout, he took a shotgun snap, looked left, and rifled a pass directly into the chest of Roby, who dropped the ball.

3. On third-and-20, Allen turned to his right, and, perhaps not seeing the 6-foot-5, 288-pound J.J. Watt, threw the ball directly through Watt’s hands.

4. Josh Allen does a lot of dumb stuff, but he usually does those dumb things when he is under pressure or has to make a quick decision. This was not that. On his first pass of overtime, Allen decided the best thing to do would be this; he threw the ball 50 yards downfield, from the Buffalo 23-yard line to the Houston 23-yard line, into double coverage. The pass was intended for fullback Patrick DiMarco, who averages 6.5 catches for 50.5 yards per year. The only reason the ball did not get intercepted by safety Justin Reid is because it bounced off the shoulder of cornerback Gareon Conley.

5. The two-minute warning is when players assess strategy with their coaches. The quarterback is supposed to know the situation, which was as follows: Buffalo was at the Houston 28-yard line, down three points, facing a third-and-13. Allen’s priorities, in order, were:

Do not turn the ball over.

Do not take a sack.

Get a first down.

Gain some yards to make the field goal attempt slightly easier.

Allen was bum-rushed by the Texans and ran backward to little impact. While being tackled to the ground, Allen tossed the ball back, hoping to find a receiver, but all he got was an intentional-grounding penalty from the spot of the foul. This pushed the Bills from a 45-yard field goal at the Houston 28 to a 59-yard field goal at the Houston 42

6. Bills HC Sean McDermott decided to go for it on fourth-and-27. Perhaps his hope was to pick up some field position without completely abandoning the chance of getting a first, via penalty or otherwise, by punting. Allen took the shotgun snap on the edge of the Texans logo, and, fittingly, immediately turned around and ran backward when Texans linebacker Jake Martin blitzed. Allen tried to zig-zag to shake Martin. It did not work.

In the first two plays after the two-minute warning and down three points, Allen lost 41 yards.

Tell us again how Allen is so much better than Mayfield?

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by eastsidedawg

I think he has a better chance than the chiefs this year.... you ready for that superbowl hangover?

It would be against all odds to make 3 superbowls in a row let alone making it back after losing one... that's a double buzzkill for KC.

Wouldn't it be smarter to base the Chief's chances at another SB appearance on the talent of their team? Y'know, the important stuff? Instead of some weird anecdotal "well only 2 teams have ever gone to 3 consecutive SB's"?