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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Bambi · 10-21-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

They are definitely gone. And they did it really well.

I hope Currie and Schultz are ready to step into the game since KU says they don't want it. Would be awesome.
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I look forward to building the rivalry with you guys.

Lets do it.

|Zach| · 10-21-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

This could not be more obvious. I've gotta give MU credit here, this was masterfully done by a generally ham-fisted institution.

Yea, this is one of the few times I felt like they played their hand really well

**Saulbadguy** · 10-21-2011, 11:58 AM

chuckle.

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Questioning my line of work on a day the president of U.S. ends a war, I'm watching a school board meeting regarding its 3-3 football team.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

So Mizzou will only be playing the good teams in their respective sport?

Gotcha

There aren't bad teams in SEC football. Shit, Kentucky has been to something like 5 or 6 straight bowl games. Vanderbilt is the worst team in the SEC, and they aren't awful.

There is only one basketball school in the Big XII, and that's Kansas. Kentucky basketball trumps Kansas any day (7 national championships compared to 2). Then you've got Florida with 2 recent titles whereas the entire Big XII has 1 in the last 20 years.

Reerun_KC · 10-21-2011, 12:01 PM

Props to MU, the did the right thing.

As a KU fan, I am extremely jealous. SEC is great conference and has a solid future, the Big 12 is still the Titanic leaving port on its maiden voyage...

Everything is going to be okay on this trip...

**HemiEd** · 10-21-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yes, while the Big 12 will play all of its football and basketball games in Ames.

I guessed you totally missed the point.

WilliamTheIrish · 10-21-2011, 12:02 PM

I thought Deaton even showed well. Clearly, it's not his element, but he did well.
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**Bearcat** · 10-21-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

This was about Kansas City today.

Meh, everyone else seems to be applauding it, so I guess I'll have to catch an article or replay, and not just the comments from here. Still don't get the point of doing it today, but whatever.

Mr. Plow · 10-21-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

There is only one basketball school in the Big XII, and that's Kansas. Kentucky basketball trumps Kansas any day (7 national championships compared to 2). Then you've got Florida with 2 recent titles whereas the entire Big XII has 1 in the last 20 years.

Basketball doesn't matter. It's secondary.

|Zach| · 10-21-2011, 12:03 PM

If Deaton's anticipated timeline of moving for the coming year is true that puts the B12 in a bit of a bind.

BYU might be the only Big 12 expansion candidate who could replace Missouri in 2012. BE schools locked in for 27 months.

**Bearcat** · 10-21-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I guessed you totally missed the point.

Probably... my only intent was to mock Saul Good.

ferrarispider95 · 10-21-2011, 12:03 PM

BYU, Louisville, or WVU.

Sounds like Mizzou doesnt plan to be in the big 12 next year, so we could get back to 10 immediately with BYU.

My preference would be Louisville, but not being about to join for 2 years makes BYU a better choice.

ferrarispider95 · 10-21-2011, 12:03 PM

BYU, Louisville, or WVU.

Sounds like Mizzou doesnt plan to be in the big 12 next year, so we could get back to 10 immediately with BYU.

My preference would be Louisville, but not being about to join for 2 years makes BYU a better choice.

Pants · 10-21-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

There aren't bad teams in SEC football. Shit, Kentucky has been to something like 5 or 6 straight bowl games. Vanderbilt is the worst team in the SEC, and they aren't awful.

There is only one basketball school in the Big XII, and that's Kansas. Kentucky basketball trumps Kansas any day (7 national championships compared to 2). Then you've got Florida with 2 recent titles whereas the entire Big XII has 1 in the last 20 years.

I agree that UK bball trumps KU bball (thanks to a KU grad) in terms of overall success. But I'm just wondering which NCAA championship you're not counting for KU? 1988?

Also, are you saying there were no basketball champions before 1939?

Bambi · 10-21-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

I agree that UK bball trumps KU bball (thanks to a KU grad) in terms of overall success. But I'm just wondering which NCAA championship you're not counting for KU, 1988?

Also, are you saying there were no basketball champions before 1939?

40 wins in 4 years duh

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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ferrarispider95 She reads at a sophomore level ferrarispider95's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: KANSAS	BYU, Louisville, or WVU. Sounds like Mizzou doesnt plan to be in the big 12 next year, so we could get back to 10 immediately with BYU. My preference would be Louisville, but not being about to join for 2 years makes BYU a better choice.
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