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Old 02-08-2024, 04:42 PM  
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Brett Veach prioritizing re-signing Chris Jones, L'Jarius Sneed

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HENDERSON, Nev. -- Kansas City Chiefs general manager Brett Veach said he is aware of the challenge the organization faces in re-signing both defensive tackle Chris Jones and cornerback L'Jarius Sneed but said it would be an offseason priority to get both players under new contracts.

"Sometimes I look at our situation and I'm like, 'I don't know how we're going to do this,' but we usually work through things systematically and have a list of the priorities,'' Veach said as the Chiefs continued preparations for Super Bowl LVIII against the San Francisco 49ers. "Certainly, Chris and LJ are at the top of the list.

"It's extremely hard because you have two keystone players there.''

Jones, 29, has been one of the NFL's top pass-rushers for years. He had 10.5 sacks this season to tie for the team lead after missing training camp and the first regular-season game while holding out for a new contract.

He didn't get the extension he was looking for, but the Chiefs sweetened the final season of his existing contract.

"It was important for us to mend the fences with Chris because we love him and he's an iconic player here, not just here, but I mean of all time,'' Veach said. "That was important for us, and we'll continue to work hard and see if we can get something done, but it will be a priority for us.''

The Chiefs used Sneed, 27, this season to defend against the opponent's top receiver much of the time, and none had big games against him.

Jones and Sneed are key players for an improved Chiefs defense that allowed fewer points than all but one other team during the regular season and held the Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills and Baltimore Ravens to 41 total points in the playoffs.

The Chiefs had defenses that were at times competitive since Patrick Mahomes became their starting quarterback in 2018, but rarely were they consistently so. Veach and the Chiefs found the task of building a top defense difficult because the past few seasons they were carrying Mahomes' massive contract.

"I still remember in '17 and '18 just saying if we can just get them to punt just once we've got a shot,'' Veach said. "Now all of a sudden it's like all we've got to do is just score once and we're good.

"Going from where we were in '17 and '18 to having one of the best defenses, knowing the constraints we had of just paying [Mahomes] and probably drafting later [in rounds], I don't think I ever envisioned having a top one or two defense.''
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:05 PM   #601
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I just don’t think the WR needs a DRASTIC fix at this point. I still like Hollywood Brown. I still like Curtis Samuel.

With Samuel, they could just dust off all the stuff they planned to do with Toney this year.

Brown, you dust off the Hill stuff.

If they can find a good price on a guy in that tier AND invest in the draft the room gets a lot better.
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:09 PM   #602
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I just don’t think the WR needs a DRASTIC fix at this point. I still like Hollywood Brown. I still like Curtis Samuel.

With Samuel, they could just dust off all the stuff they planned to do with Toney this year.

Brown, you dust off the Hill stuff.

If they can find a good price on a guy in that tier AND invest in the draft the room gets a lot better.
What do you think of Darnell Mooney?
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:13 PM   #603
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What do you think of Darnell Mooney?

I don’t like his as much as Samuel or Brown, but he’d be a good fit, I think.
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:17 PM   #604
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The Spagnuolo interview on Baldy's show fully sold me on Sneed over Jones if push comes to shove.

Can just tell Spags feels like the cover guys open up his entire playbook. We can manufacture pressure with that back end together. But, w/o Chris you still gotta add guys who can win one-on-one.
This is based on nothing but vibes, but the whole tone of our defense seems to have changed since Sneed showed up, starting with the secondary, then permeating to the whole defense.

The tackling has gotten so much better. Guys are flying around putting their bodies in harm's way, because they know every other guy is doing the same thing. It wasn't like that 5 years ago.

I think he's a quiet leader who's the heart and soul of that defense right now. I don't want to lose him, and at the same time I worry about giving Jones' a massive contract that turns out like Berry and Houston.
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:18 PM   #605
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WR is one of those weird positions where sometimes you find a guy who was buried on a depth chart of stars or didn't fit a system particularly well, you bring them into your place, and they take off.

Not sure if that guy exists in this class, but they may.
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:19 PM   #606
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:20 PM   #607
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WR is one of those weird positions where sometimes you find a guy who was buried on a depth chart of stars or didn't fit a system particularly well, you bring them into your place, and they take off.

Not sure if that guy exists in this class, but they may.
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:20 PM   #608
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I just don’t think the WR needs a DRASTIC fix at this point. I still like Hollywood Brown. I still like Curtis Samuel.

With Samuel, they could just dust off all the stuff they planned to do with Toney this year.

Brown, you dust off the Hill stuff.

If they can find a good price on a guy in that tier AND invest in the draft the room gets a lot better.
I think I like brown the most
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:24 PM   #609
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:27 PM   #610
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:28 PM   #611
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I don’t like his as much as Samuel or Brown, but he’d be a good fit, I think.
He's a great 'buy low' prospect.
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:32 PM   #612
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He's a great 'buy low' prospect.
Spotrac has Darnell Mooney getting 4 for 41 he isn't exactly buy low.
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:33 PM   #613
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The moment MVS became an average NFL player again in the post-season, the offense started to work. And when Hardman was able to make just a couple of plays to supplement that, the offense continued to work.

All this team needs is average at WR2 and 3. We just got a perfect test bed and proved exactly that.

But hey, if we're not scoring 31 points/gm then everything is just a complete failure. Nevermind that we'll enter 2024 with a better WR room than the 2022 squad that led the league in every meaningful offensive metric. We have to have Tyreek Hill (or some old ****er like Hopkins who isn't as good as Rice) and THEN we'll be ready to rock...
Don't need a room of Randy Moss type WRs. Just need receivers that are not liabilities in the pass game like Toney and Moore this year.
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:35 PM   #614
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Don't need a room of Randy Moss type WRs. Just need receivers that are not liabilities in the pass game like Toney and Moore this year.
In this offense Rice is your #1! He almost had 1000 yards receiving while playing less than 50% of the snaps from weeks 1-8
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:36 PM   #615
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Spotrac has Darnell Mooney getting 4 for 41 he isn't exactly buy low.
Yeah, I think Spotrac is just drastically, drastically off on what Mooney will get as a FA.
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