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09-25-2020, 01:49 PM | #6106 |
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401k doesn't matter since you don't have decisions to make about individual stocks. I have a 401k and a Roth. I treat those differently than my TD Ameritrade account.
There are myriad stocks that have a "buy" rating from my advisors. It's at this point in time that they don't advise buying stocks because the overall market is not moving in the right direction. That could change in a few days. I've learned to play the middle 80% of the market. Don't buy bottom feeders and don't try to pick the top. When to buy and when to sell are critical. That's where professionals come into play. They do market analysis for a living. I don't. Good investing! |
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09-25-2020, 02:09 PM | #6107 | |
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Definitely, but in the long term, passive strategies tend to outperform active strategies. Is your managed account doing better than your retirement accounts? I'm often tempted to take a more hands on approach, but haven't yet. |
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09-25-2020, 02:48 PM | #6108 |
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Yup, you can't out predict the market. It's been stated here before that trying to time the market doesn't work to your advantage over regular methodical investing.
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09-25-2020, 03:16 PM | #6109 | |
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I'm a unique case. The company I worked for matched 401k contributions with stock. They also offered a stock buying program and I participated. Needless to say I owned a bunch of company stock. There have been two buyouts since 2015 that put the price of the stock through the roof (and were sold). I guess you could say the 401k is passive and the stock buying part that went to TD Ameritrade is passive. I didn't actively trade the stock. Since then my active trading has done much better than my 401k and better than most benchmarks. No fund fees either. Good investing! |
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10-05-2020, 09:29 PM | #6110 |
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Any good long term buys right now?
I’ve been analyzing lots of stocks the past few days and nothing looks great for buy and hold. |
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10-06-2020, 03:07 AM | #6111 | |
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TSLA WKHS SHLL which just became (HYLN) after the merger yesterday And the charging station companies: BLNK SBE I like HYLN's concept of thaking the drive train from an existing semi and replacing it with an electric system. It saves existing fleets tons of money over purchasing new Electric semi's WKHS will blow up if it gets the USPS contract and I think Trump will unleash the funds for USPS before the election. I'm holding these long term, at least 5 years and not going to worry about what happens between now and then. |
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10-06-2020, 07:35 AM | #6112 | |
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Any good blue chip stocks for long plays? Intel and Cisco are on my radar for beaten down but didn’t pass all the tests yet. I did add some of LUV. I see it surviving this and possibly buying out others. It’s shown plenty of support in a turbulent sector. |
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10-09-2020, 06:27 AM | #6113 | |
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It was a great ride. 6.90 to 60.00. More happy that my timeline was pretty much spot on rather than any return. What else should I look at to reposition the money? |
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10-09-2020, 06:33 AM | #6114 | |
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I missed the 30-45 jump. Told myself to buy it and just let it sit for a while. Your thoughts? Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk |
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10-09-2020, 08:20 AM | #6115 | |
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I do think it can grow more by looking at the charts right now. I see no reason why it can't get back to where it was at pre-covid by sometime next year. I'm not out of it yet, but am really wanting to take my money. |
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10-09-2020, 10:51 AM | #6116 | |
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10-09-2020, 10:58 AM | #6117 |
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Take a look at doing Roth Conversion out of 401K's
Good chance if Dems go in, Cap Gain taxes will go up, maybe to regular tax levels...Convert now, pay the cap gain now and use the roths for your forced distribution |
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10-09-2020, 11:21 AM | #6118 |
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I mentioned ENPH about a month ago. Wish I had bought some. I still think it's a good long term investment. They manufacture inverters for solar energy. As I said before I'm sitting on the sidelines until after the election.
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10-09-2020, 11:33 AM | #6119 | |
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Now that all being said, future income tax rates will definitely be higher if the Dems take control. So the game is to convert now at a lower tax rate or chance paying most likely higher taxes later. |
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10-09-2020, 07:04 PM | #6120 | |
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My pencil has me ready to pull some gains to put toward buying another rental, but I'm balls out busy right now and wouldn't have time to mess with it until winter. |
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