***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Propagating falsehoods should be a thread banning offense, pete, and that's pretty much all you've done.

So what are the true numbers great omniscient one?

So much for “there can only be one” tough guy.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by TLO

Do you think this is some sort of anomaly? Do we have age ranges for other people throughout the country?

I haven't seen nation wide age-related data.

I don't think that this is an anomaly, I think that young people are getting sick. They are not dying frequently, but some are getting quite ill.

Age is definitely a significant risk factor.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The # of COVID-19 cases will increase as the testing becomes more widespread.

The hysteria/panic crowd apparently thinks that every one of these new confirmed cases represents someone severely sick and dying in a hospital bed.

In reality, 80% of these “cases” represents a person with minimal/no symptoms.

I don't think anyone thinks new confirmed case means someone is severely sick. Stop making shit up.

People are concerned and worried about their friends and loved ones as they should be. This is a serious situation.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Stop it. If you want to have this discussion with Big Daddy, start another thread about it. Not here.

This was my first post on the matter

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by SupDock

This was my last post on the matter

Fixed it.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by SupDock

This was my first post on the matter

Low tolerance when there are a multitude of similar threads in DC.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by eDave

Low tolerance when there are a multitude of similar threads in DC.

Fair enough, but I think someones scientific perspective is important when considering their opinion

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The # of COVID-19 cases will increase as the testing becomes more widespread.

The hysteria/panic crowd apparently thinks that every one of these new confirmed cases represents someone severely sick and dying in a hospital bed.

In reality, 80% of these “cases” represents a person with minimal/no symptoms.

Why do you insist on calling it hysteria/panic instead of concern , why does everything have to be at the extreme of the spectrum.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by TLO

Scared. But I'll be ok.

This morning I was optimistic but this evening I am in the dumps. I think I am going to turn off the cable news for awhile

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by SupDock

So not against vaccines in general, just the ones that exist?

Perfect response. Thanks for proving my point.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The # of COVID-19 cases will increase as the testing becomes more widespread.

The hysteria/panic crowd apparently thinks that every one of these new confirmed cases represents someone severely sick and dying in a hospital bed.

In reality, 80% of these “cases” represents a person with minimal/no symptoms.

Link?

[FAX]

More testing that is far more accurate is going to result in additional cases reported so we can expect the total # of cases to rise. (It helps to know what you're looking for.)

From the journal Science ... an excerpt from the abstract;

Here we use observations of reported infection within China, in conjunction with mobility data, a networked dynamic metapopulation model and Bayesian inference, to infer critical epidemiological characteristics associated with SARS-CoV2, including the fraction of undocumented infections and their contagiousness.

We estimate 86% of all infections were undocumented (95% CI: [82%–90%]) prior to 23 January 2020 travel restrictions.

https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...cience.abb3221

FAX

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

This morning I was optimistic but this evening I am in the dumps. I think I am going to turn off the cable news for awhile

Snuggle up with the gf as long as we flatten the curve as weve seen so many other countries do well be fine. Gonna take a bit of time.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by FAX

More testing that is far more accurate is going to result in additional cases reported so we can expect the total # of cases to rise. (It helps to know what you're looking for.)

From the journal Science ... an excerpt from the abstract;

Here we use observations of reported infection within China, in conjunction with mobility data, a networked dynamic metapopulation model and Bayesian inference, to infer critical epidemiological characteristics associated with SARS-CoV2, including the fraction of undocumented infections and their contagiousness.

We estimate 86% of all infections were undocumented (95% CI: [82%–90%]) prior to 23 January 2020 travel restrictions.

https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...cience.abb3221

FAX

WOW

[TLO]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/17/healt...ths/index.html

This article talks about the people who have died from the disease in the U.S.