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Old 04-26-2021, 05:37 AM  
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Falcons taking calls on Julio Jones
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A hamstring injury limited Jones to just nine games last season, though he still put up strong numbers when he was on the field. He caught 51 passes for 771 yards and three scores as the Falcons finished the year 4-12. From 2014-19, Jones missed only four games and averaged 104 catches and 1,564 yards per season. SI Link.







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Surprises? Keep an eye on Atlanta. I can’t predict any bombshells. But a few things would not surprise me. Most notably, the Falcons putting the framework of a trade together for star wideout Julio Jones, and making the trade effective June 2. That way, Atlanta could split Jones’ cap charge between 2021 and 2022 instead of getting bashed with it all this year. So if such a trade happens, I expect it could involve a future pick or picks, nothing this year. (A future second-round pick as compensation seems fair to me.) Because such a trade wouldn’t be official till June, no picks in this draft could be involved. As for the interested team or teams, I would guess Las Vegas; Jon Gruden couldn’t resist Antonio Brown, and I doubt he could resist Julio Jones. New England too, and a couple of teams with clear receiver needs—Tennessee and Baltimore.

Now, the Falcons don’t really want to trade Julio Jones. He’s a franchise legend. But he’s 32, entering his 11th season, coming off a banged-up year with seven games missed due to injury, and the Falcons are in cap jail. If they could off-load his money and cushion it by splitting it between this year ($7.75 million) and next ($15.5 million), Atlanta’s cap charge on Jones this year goes down by a tad more than $15 million.

One final note here, to be very clear: I am not reporting the Falcons will trade Jones, or will probably trade Jones. I am saying it would not surprise me if it happened.
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Old 04-26-2021, 09:28 AM   #46
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Where are fitting his $15 million dollar cap hit?
Restructure to 2022?
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Old 04-26-2021, 09:28 AM   #47
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Old 04-26-2021, 09:28 AM   #48
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Yes. Some of the most reliable hands.

Obviously not on par with Kelce. Tyreek has his share of missed opportunities but will give him the nod based on sheer volume.

But are you going to try to argue that Pringle and Robinson have better hands?

And Reid DOES find a way to make him work and get him on the field.

Hardman fills a specific role on this team. And he's damn good at it. Getting a Julio Jones etc won't change anything about his role or production.
So if we have a WR2 that plays 16 games, and CEH gets more involved in the passing game, how exactly do you think Hardman won't see his touches reduced?

And Hardman led the team in drops. Idk why you think he has good hands. https://scores.nbcsports.com/fb/lead...e=NFL&rank=232
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Old 04-26-2021, 09:30 AM   #49
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Tbf before last year he played 15, 16, 14, 16, 16, 15 games in the 6 years before that.
He suited up for a lot but was banged up more than that indicates.
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Old 04-26-2021, 09:30 AM   #50
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Yes. Some of the most reliable hands.

Obviously not on par with Kelce. Tyreek has his share of missed opportunities but will give him the nod based on sheer volume.

But are you going to try to argue that Pringle and Robinson have better hands?

And Reid DOES find a way to make him work and get him on the field.

Hardman fills a specific role on this team. And he's damn good at it. Getting a Julio Jones etc won't change anything about his role or production.
I think the covid year really hurt Hardman's development. This is a really complicated offense, and his mental processing isn't always there yet, as we've seen. But I'm not nearly as down on him as some people are.

I agree with your assessment.
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Old 04-26-2021, 09:33 AM   #51
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He suited up for a lot but was banged up more than that indicates.
Yeah I agree. He's always nicked up but he played and still dominated unlike Sammy who flat out couldn't play.
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Old 04-26-2021, 09:35 AM   #52
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Didn't we just get rid of a broke dick #2 wr?! For the last couple years hasn't he been one of those players who can't practice all week? Has to wait til game day until he knows if he'll play that week?
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Old 04-26-2021, 09:37 AM   #53
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Didn't we just get rid of a broke dick #2 wr?! For the last couple years hasn't he been one of those players who can't practice all week? Has to wait til game day until he knows if he'll play that week?
He had 1400 yards in 2019. What a brokedick.
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Old 04-26-2021, 09:38 AM   #54
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So if we have a WR2 that plays 16 games, and CEH gets more involved in the passing game, how exactly do you think Hardman won't see his touches reduced?

And Hardman led the team in drops. Idk why you think he has good hands. https://scores.nbcsports.com/fb/lead...e=NFL&rank=232
Because of the role he plays. Has his production changed at all the last two seasons? Maybe you should ask yourself why it hasn't, no matter who's lined up outside.
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Because of the role he plays. Has his production changed at all the last two seasons? Maybe you should ask yourself why it hasn't, no matter who's lined up outside.
Yeah because we have a WR2 that missed half of the games. Of course a WR3/4s production will be higher those years. What do you think to a happens to a WR3/4s production when the WR2 doesn't miss half the games?
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I think the covid year really hurt Hardman's development. This is a really complicated offense, and his mental processing isn't always there yet, as we've seen. But I'm not nearly as down on him as some people are.

I agree with your assessment.
I think Hardman's biggest obstacle is the mental part of the game. That's what shows up on the televised recordings of the games. He yings when Patrick expects him to yang, or he pulls up when Patrick expects him to keep going.

He was raw when we draft him and everyone knew that. Then all of a sudden people seemed to have forgotten that.

He could probably stand to add 10lbs like Tyreek did so he could hold up against press coverage on the outside as well.
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He had 1400 yards in 2019. What a brokedick.
Thus the question marks. You'd notice them if you paid attention.
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Yeah because we have a WR2 that missed half of the games. Of course a WR3/4s production will be higher those years. What do you think to a happens to a WR3/4s production when a WR2 doesn't miss half the games?
Production doesn't work like that.

How many targets was Watkins getting when he was healthy and playing, vs Robinson/Pringle when they took over on the outside?

I'd be surprised if there's a deviation greater than +/- 1 or 2 targets.

You're acting like healthy Sammy Watkins was gobbling up targets when quite frankly he had stretches where they never threw his direction.
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