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Old 01-21-2020, 11:00 AM  
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NFL to experiment with alternative to onside kick at Pro Bowl
I don't think the NFL will ever allow it to happen, but just imagine a world where we could try keep the ball out of another team's hands using our ridiculously efficient 'and long' offense for an entire half.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-kick-pro-bowl

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The NFL will experiment with an alternative to the onside kick during Sunday's Pro Bowl, an indication that the league is still considering the option despite the fact that owners rejected it last year.

As in past years, there will be no kickoffs at all in the Pro Bowl. The twist this year is that teams will have two options after scoring.

The first is to give the ball back to the opposition, which would start its drive at its 25-yard line. The new, second option for the scoring team would serve as a substitute for an onside kick. It would allow it to run one additional play from its own 25-yard line.

If the scoring team gains 15 or more yards, it would retain possession. If it falls short, the opposition would take over at the dead ball spot. Essentially, it will be a fourth-and-15 play.
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Old 01-21-2020, 01:33 PM   #46
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so lets replace the automatic holding call on returns with an automatic defensive holding call to let a team (Probably the Patriots) back in a game
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Old 01-21-2020, 01:34 PM   #47
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I don't think it's a terrible idea.

Odds for converting probably increases 5-10%, but the "kicking" team inherits more risk. Force an incomplete pass and you get the ball at the opponent's 25 instead of the 50. I agree that automatic 1st down penalties make it a little harder to swallow, but whatever.
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Old 01-21-2020, 01:38 PM   #48
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this is stupid as hell im assuming goodell came up with it himself so its still being pushed.

The AAF league used this rule to pretty good success IIRC.

The XFL rule is dumb

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If a team wishes to run an onside kick, it must indicate this to the official before the play and the two teams will be permitted to line up using traditional NFL rules (i.e. 10 yards apart from the kicking team). There will be no surprise onside kicks.
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Old 01-21-2020, 01:39 PM   #49
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I agree that automatic 1st down penalties make it a little harder to swallow, but whatever.
That would be all you have to do. Flood a zone and throw a 15-20 yard Hail Mary. The onside kick works, even today.
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Old 01-21-2020, 01:40 PM   #50
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Chiefs would never kickoff, not bad I guess.
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Old 01-21-2020, 01:43 PM   #51
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Chiefs would never kickoff, not bad I guess.
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Old 01-21-2020, 03:37 PM   #52
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One thing is teams would get very very good at their 4th and 15 defense. So the #s would go down from whatever they are now.
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Old 01-21-2020, 03:49 PM   #53
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make it 1 play to get to the 50 starting at the 25. i’m pretty sure the success rate would be around 10%
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Old 01-21-2020, 04:40 PM   #54
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They need a replacement of some kind for the nerfed onside kick.
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So we're gonna try this one out but both teams getting the ball in overtime was too extreme?
No shit.

This piddly crap is ignorant as hell considering we're still ending games between two elite offenses based on a god damn coin flip and no one seems to care enough to raise hell about it.
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Old 01-21-2020, 05:47 PM   #56
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Have not looked at all posts....

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The new, second option for the scoring team would serve as a substitute for an onside kick. It would allow it to run one additional play from its own 25-yard line.

If the scoring team gains 15 or more yards, it would retain possession. If it falls short, the opposition would take over at the dead ball spot. Essentially, it will be a fourth-and-15 play.
Instead of going for it, what if you choose to line up and punt????
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