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11-21-2018, 10:19 AM | #46 |
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I would actually give it to Donald at this point but he'll never win it.
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11-21-2018, 10:21 AM | #47 |
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Any one person who votes for Gurley needs to kill themselves for being so ****ing stupid.
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11-21-2018, 10:21 AM | #48 |
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Depends what Brees does this week... He has played one less game and this week he will have stats for 11 games, equivalent to Mahomes. If he goes 4 TD's - 0 picks that makes him the front runner. If he throws a couple of picks it will be closer.
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11-21-2018, 10:22 AM | #49 |
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I think Pat pulls back ahead if one of two, or both, things happen:
- he gets 51+ TD’s (passes Brady’s best season, 2nd place all time if under 55) - he throws 8 TD’s in a game (sets record for most in a game, can do it against Raiders) I think he sits week 17 against the Raiders which limits his games to 4. He’ll need to average 4 per game to hit 51. - Raiders 3-8 TD’s - we could let off the gas and run a lot when we have the lead. - Chargers 3-5 TD’s - could be another shootout - Ravens 2-4 TD’s - meh - Seahawks 2-4 TD’s - meh - Raiders (May sit out) Best case, 58 TD’s and most all time. Worst case, 47 TD’s. |
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11-21-2018, 10:23 AM | #50 |
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11-21-2018, 10:25 AM | #51 |
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11-21-2018, 10:25 AM | #52 |
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Right now it would have to be Drew Brees, but Pat certainly isn't out of the mix.
His great OL helps a lot, but dang you gotta appreciate what the dude is doing at 39. |
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11-21-2018, 10:25 AM | #53 | |
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Welcome to the "new" NFL. I saw a tweet that only six guys in NFL history had ____ yards and ___ TDs by Game 10 and each had won the NFL MVP that year. Goff and Mahomes BOTH had those stats when they met last Monday, and that wasn't even counting Brees' sick season (I think Brees didn't meet the yardage number but don't recall). It's a sick all-offense world now. All the old records for scoring, TDs, passing, receiving etc. should fall within the current generation, except maybe Rice's lifetime numbers. |
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11-21-2018, 10:26 AM | #54 |
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11-21-2018, 10:33 AM | #55 |
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11-21-2018, 10:37 AM | #56 | |
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And even if all 10 were poor in-game decisions, 10 ints is still ridiculously low for someone who leads the league in passing yards. Go look up the passing yardage kings all these years. Almost no one has fewer ints than Mahomes does. As far as completion percentage, yes Brees is killing it but Mahomes isn't shabby himself at almost 68%. Considering Brees has 60 plus fewer passing attempts, of course, his completion percentage will be inflated. That's basically equivalent to Mahomes having to play almost 2 more games than Brees. So, of course, Mahomes percentage will be hurt because of variance and Brees percentage will be better. Ironically I am of the mindset that the lifetime award aspect of this conversation actually hurts Brees here. If Brees never winning an MVP is weighted into this conversation then I am weighing the fact that Mahomes is essentially a rookie vs Brees and of course because of that it's way easier for Brees to do what he's doing after 15 whatever years of experience than it is for Mahomes to be doing this. I don't buy the, "he's young, he'll have other chances...." MVP years are specifically designed to recognize abnormal playing years. Mahomes year is 10x more abnormal considering Mahomes age and experience than Brees not throwing picks as a 15-year vet. Look at Cam Newton/Rodgers/Matt Ryan/ none of them had a year quite like their MVP seasons. There is no evidence Mahomes will catch lightning in a bottle again. Defenses were not planning for Mahomes until well after his 14-0 TD to int ratio start. If I was voting no way I vote Brees. |
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11-21-2018, 10:39 AM | #57 |
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I have always been a fan of Drew Brees. He has had a great career. It's hard to believe that he has never been league MVP. But it's always been like it is this year. His greatest seasons have been not quite as good as a career year by another great. Most years, Brees would be hands down the MVP. Who could have imagined that a first year starter would be on Pace for a 50 TD season? I'll be disappointed if Mahomes doesn't win it. But I'll still be happy for Brees.
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11-21-2018, 10:44 AM | #58 |
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I think this is how it probably goes. Next month could change things.
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11-21-2018, 10:47 AM | #59 |
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Brees.
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11-21-2018, 10:50 AM | #60 |
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1. Mahomes
2. Brees 3. Hunter 4. Gurley 5. Donald /thread |
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