And so the "Matt Cassel to KC" Rumors Begin...

[Consistent1]

It is really hard to judge what Cassel is worth. He could end up being pretty darn good, or just about average. It is too bad that he did not get put on the spot in a playoff situation. He helped the team go 11-5, what could he have done with the added pressure? It is good and bad for him. On one hand, he did not get the chance to flop. On the other, if he had a good playoff run....he would be in line for a big payday and the Pats would have easily gotten a few nice trade offers. Was what he did during the season a fluke, did the team situation do it all for him, was it Welker and Moss? Who knows right now....

[wazimo]

If the Patriots would accept a 3rd rounder I would jump on it. I think they will more likely ask for a 1st and accept a 2nd.

It's a little far fetched but I would love to p/up Haynesworth in Free agency then draft Oher or Curry in the first, trade the 2nd for Boldin, and our 3rd for Cassell. We still have a ton of young players on our roster. This would make us much better on both offense and defense. Do we have enough money?

[ChiefRon]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

“But if Kansas (City) were to make that deal, that’s their Matt Ryan. That’s their Joe Flacco. Unlike a Sanchez, for instance, they know he’s playing at a starter’s level. So to them, I think it’d be worth it to do. They’d get their starting quarterback, they know what he’s capable of doing, and they’ve seen him win games at the NFL level.”

I agree with Jim Miller on this, but I actually hope it doesn't happen and we draft Sanchez or Stafford just so I can laugh at all the stupid posts on ChiefsPlanet.

[DaFace]

I must've missed something. I thought that Cassell was UFA this season. What's with all the talk of draft picks? I know they may franchise him, but doesn't that come with a requirement that teams signing him give up a first round pick or something like that?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I must've missed something. I thought that Cassell was UFA this season. What's with all the talk of draft picks? I know they may franchise him, but doesn't that come with a requirement that teams signing him give up a first round pick or something like that?

franchise=2 1st rounders, but they can still trade him for whatever

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

franchise=2 1st rounders, but they can still trade him for whatever

If they franchise him and there are no takers, they are stuck with two expensive QBs.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I must've missed something. I thought that Cassell was UFA this season. What's with all the talk of draft picks? I know they may franchise him, but doesn't that come with a requirement that teams signing him give up a first round pick or something like that?

They franchise him and a team signs him they're obligated to 2 first round selections. I can't imagine Cassell saying yeah, I'll pass up $15 million for 1 year to get $30 million for 4. Which is about all he's worth at this point IMO.

As far as I'm concerned, the Pats ****ed themselves when they went this route.

[ChiefRon]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I must've missed something. I thought that Cassell was UFA this season. What's with all the talk of draft picks? I know they may franchise him, but doesn't that come with a requirement that teams signing him give up a first round pick or something like that?

If they franchise him and another team signs him to an offer sheet, the Pats can decide whether to match the offer or not. If they decide to not match, they get the compensation from the other team, depending on the level of the tender offer.

Most likely, the team would negotiate compensation first to avoid having the pay the compensation related to the tender offer.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by ChiefRon

If they franchise him and another team signs him to an offer sheet, the Pats can decide whether to match the offer or not. If they decide to not match, they get the compensation from the other team, depending on the level of the tender offer.

Most likely, the team would negotiate compensation first to avoid having the pay the compensation related to the tender offer.

I think you're thinking of restricted free agency. If a team signs a franchise player without working out a deal with his team, they are required to give up 2 first round draft picks.

[ChiefRon]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I think you're thinking of restricted free agency. If a team signs a franchise player without working out a deal with his team, they are required to give up 2 first round draft picks.

Yes, you are right, that's restricted FA.

But bottom line is the same: if a team was going to make a play for him, they would negotiate the compensation first to make sure it would make sense and it can be for less than 2 1st round picks.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by ChiefRon

Yes, you are right, that's restricted FA.

But bottom line is the same: if a team was going to make a play for him, they would negotiate the compensation first to make sure it would make sense and it can be for less than 2 1st round picks.

Yeah, didn't we do this with JA?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by ChiefRon

Yes, you are right, that's restricted FA.

But bottom line is the same: if a team was going to make a play for him, they would negotiate the compensation first to make sure it would make sense and it can be for less than 2 1st round picks.

Totally. Honestly though, for me I wouldn't want him and the Pats first round pick for our 7th. I don't want anywhere near that 15 million he's getting next season. He's flat out not worth it.

[nychief]

I don't know about Cassel yet... I mean I think we have to bring in a Vet and a Rookie QB this offseason, but am not sold on Cassel. We bring in Cassel and he is the guy.

[Mr. Laz]

if you trade for cassel then you're stuck because he will demand a long term, starter money contract


better be sure