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Old 01-23-2019, 04:31 PM   #2
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If they can’t get someone to puke up value for the Sack numbers he put up I will be disappointed.
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Old 01-23-2019, 04:40 PM   #3
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Looking at that front 7, yikes.

Beau Allen - Vita Vea - RNR?

Uh? - idk - wtflol - Vinny Curry

None of their LB's are really going to translate over well and their #1 edge guy currently is just ok.

They're going to need some DL, 2 inside backers (we can give them ****ing Ragland too) and some edgerushers.
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Old 01-23-2019, 04:45 PM   #4
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Looking at that front 7, yikes.

Beau Allen - Vita Vea - RNR?

Uh? - idk - wtflol - Vinny Curry

None of their LB's are really going to translate over well and their #1 edge guy currently is just ok.

They're going to need some DL, 2 inside backers (we can give them ****ing Ragland too) and some edgerushers.
Yeah, that front looks atrocious in a 34. Damn.

I'd take Vinny Curry or Beau Allen here. Shit, i'd trade them Ford for Vita Vea
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Old 01-23-2019, 04:53 PM   #5
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Can we trade Dee Ford for Lavonte David?
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Old 01-23-2019, 05:00 PM   #6
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Can we trade Dee Ford for Lavonte David?
I had thought about that but I don’t know if they could do it contractually
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Old 01-23-2019, 05:31 PM   #7
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I had thought about that but I don’t know if they could do it contractually
His cap hits look like this:

2019: $9.75 million
2020: $10.5 million


There are no dead cap hits for the Bucs.
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Old 01-23-2019, 05:48 PM   #8
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For those who like to do the mocks—someone should make one where we sign Landon Collins. Seems logical if Spags is here.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:02 PM   #9
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The Giants aren't letting Collins walk.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:04 PM   #10
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:12 PM   #11
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You never let a good pass rusher go. Ever. They're too hard to find.

What if they’re one-dimensional players
Who are complete liabilities in all other facets of the game, while also being really really dumb?
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:53 PM   #12
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You never let a good pass rusher go. Ever. They're too hard to find.
Ford should only be seeing the field in known passing situations. Beyond that, he's a net negative in every other aspect of the game.

He's given the Chiefs 30.5 sacks in five years. You're going to be paying him like he's a 13 sack guy, but is he really? You don't pay for the aberration year, you pay for what the player is likely to give you.

For example: Aaron Donald had a career year this year, getting more sacks than he had in 2016 and 17 combined. Do you think he's going to continue to put up 20 sacks per year, or is he closer to a 12-14 sack guy?

Ford may give you 8-10 sacks a year on average (if healthy), but if that is coupled with horrific run defense, why pay him 15-18 million per year? Wouldn't a guy that gives you 6-8 sacks per year and plays competent run defense be a much better alternative and a hell of a lot cheaper?
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:54 PM   #13
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Ford should only be seeing the field in known passing situations. Beyond that, he's a net negative in every other aspect of the game.



He's given the Chiefs 30.5 sacks in five years. You're going to be paying him like he's a 13 sack guy, but is he really? You don't pay for the aberration year, you pay for what the player is likely to give you.



For example: Aaron Donald had a career year this year, getting more sacks than he had in 2016 and 17 combined. Do you think he's going to continue to put up 20 sacks per year, or is he closer to a 12-14 sack guy?



Ford may give you 8-10 sacks a year on average (if healthy), but if that is coupled with horrific run defense, why pay him 15-18 million per year? Wouldn't a guy that gives you 6-8 sacks per year and plays competent run defense be a much better alternative and a hell of a lot cheaper?

Yes, yes, a million times, yes.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:16 PM   #14
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My brain says if our new DC envisions some outstanding role he can play, then lets give it a brief shot and tag him
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:58 AM   #15
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Yeah, I'm just kind of tired of paying guys after contract years and getting bent over.

Let someone else pay him. Tag him and take a 3rd if you have too. If someone gives you a 2nd, take it and trade it for a ****ing corner.
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