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mr. tegu · Yesterday, 07:15 PM

Being only marginally better than last season? Worthy likely has a higher ceiling and more potential than Hardman but he is unlikely, at least for now, to be a 6-8 target a game guy as an option on the majority of passing plays. Rice is better than Rice last season so that's good. Kelce is probably worst though.

But mostly what I’m fearful about is that losing Brown is going to be a major impediment to the offense being noticeably better than last season. He was likely big in our schemes and philosophy. I know we typically struggle vs the Bengals but as of right now I'm not sure what would make me confident we dramatically improve over last season.

What does everyone think? How can we ensure the significant improvement over last season that it seems we might need?

tmoshow · Yesterday, 07:49 PM

It’s unbelievable this is still a discussion every year. Defenses are keying in on Kelce, rice is legit. We need worthy to come through as a 3rd reliable piece in this offense and we’ll be fine.

BWillie · Yesterday, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tmoshow

It’s unbelievable this is still a discussion every year. Defenses are keying in on Kelce, rice is legit. We need worthy to come through as a 3rd reliable piece in this offense and we’ll be fine.

Why is it unbelievable? I'm still worried about the offense last year. And we won the Super Bowl.

Basileus777 · Yesterday, 07:57 PM

I don't think the offense has the ceiling we were hoping for without Brown and the tackles don't look any better than last year. Pacheco is hurt. The defense is still good so there is margin for error to get better as the season goes on.

**LoneWolf** · Yesterday, 08:02 PM

Offense is fine. Look around the league. Scoring is down. Chiefs played 2 good defenses to start the year and win both games. Pull your panties out of your ass and enjoy the show.

Basileus777 · Yesterday, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Offense is fine. Look around the league. Scoring is down. Chiefs played 2 good defenses to start the year and win both games. Pull your panties out of your ass and enjoy the show.

Bengals probably don't have a good defense, they were pushed around by the Patriots upfront.

Chief Pagan · Yesterday, 08:14 PM

You don't have perfect teams with great depth at every position.

Yes, LT is a worry and tackle depth for that matter.

I don't think it should be shocking that age at some point will reduce Travis's elite-ness.

KC had an awesome D last year and that is hard to sustain year over year.

But what team wouldn't want to trade places/problems with KC?

tredadda · Yesterday, 08:19 PM

No. If this were late December then possibly. But it’s week 2 against two of the toughest opponents KC will face all year and they are still 2-0. They will be fine.

Why Not? · Yesterday, 08:23 PM

For those who are concerned, you realize these are the most points we’ve scored vs the Bengals since the Champ game we lost to them?

Anorumo has our number. But no longer can beat us.

We be fine.

Stryker · Yesterday, 08:23 PM

Absolutely NO! This is a figuring it out stage for the Chiefs. We have Reid and will adjust our offense moving forward. NOT worried at all. We just beat the Ravens and the Bengals, what are we worried about? C'mon man!

Megatron96 · Yesterday, 08:27 PM

Not yet, but it bears watching, obviously. As does the progress, or not, of Kingsley.

Kiimo · Yesterday, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Why is it unbelievable? I'm still worried about the offense last year. And we won the Super Bowl.

Did you see the rest of the league? QBs are getting roasted

TwistedChief · Yesterday, 08:35 PM

Is it unfortunate we lost our biggest offseason signing to bolster the offense? Yes.

Is it disappointing our rookie LT really struggled against one of the top 10% of edge rushers in football? Kinda.

Worried? Not really. Just gotta figure things out and that's no different than before.

pugsnotdrugs19 · Yesterday, 08:38 PM

Unfortunately with the injuries to Hollywood and now Pop, the ceiling will never be reached (which I thought was surefire #1 offense in the league this year)

Now it’s gonna be a bit more of a grind maybe, but I still expect an Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes unit to be more than good enough by the time it truly matters.

UChieffyBugger · Yesterday, 08:49 PM

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Very worried about the defense though. Losing Sneed and Gay was going to result in a step back but personally didn't expect it to be so significant.

20 and 25 points against Lamar and Burrow has you worried?? Last year with Sneed and Gay we gave up 20 to Zach Wilson, 24 to Russell Wilson, 20 to Kirk Cousins, 27 to Jordan Love and 20 to Josh Allen. So what's worse about the defense exactly?

UChieffyBugger · Yesterday, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not?

For those who are concerned, you realize these are the most points we’ve scored vs the Bengals since the Champ game we lost to them?

Anorumo has our number. But no longer can beat us.

We be fine.

Pat averages 25 points, 250 yards and two TD's against him. What number?

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mr. tegu Forever Royal mr. tegu's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2012	Are we worried about our offense? Being only marginally better than last season? Worthy likely has a higher ceiling and more potential than Hardman but he is unlikely, at least for now, to be a 6-8 target a game guy as an option on the majority of passing plays. Rice is better than Rice last season so that's good. Kelce is probably worst though. But mostly what I’m fearful about is that losing Brown is going to be a major impediment to the offense being noticeably better than last season. He was likely big in our schemes and philosophy. I know we typically struggle vs the Bengals but as of right now I'm not sure what would make me confident we dramatically improve over last season. What does everyone think? How can we ensure the significant improvement over last season that it seems we might need?
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tmoshow Starter Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Kansas City MO	It’s unbelievable this is still a discussion every year. Defenses are keying in on Kelce, rice is legit. We need worthy to come through as a 3rd reliable piece in this offense and we’ll be fine.
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Basileus777 MVP Basileus777's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey	I don't think the offense has the ceiling we were hoping for without Brown and the tackles don't look any better than last year. Pacheco is hurt. The defense is still good so there is margin for error to get better as the season goes on.
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LoneWolf Constable of Untruths LoneWolf's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wichita	Offense is fine. Look around the league. Scoring is down. Chiefs played 2 good defenses to start the year and win both games. Pull your panties out of your ass and enjoy the show.
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Yesterday, 08:14 PM	#51
Chief Pagan Sometimes it's black and white Chief Pagan's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California	You don't have perfect teams with great depth at every position. Yes, LT is a worry and tackle depth for that matter. I don't think it should be shocking that age at some point will reduce Travis's elite-ness. KC had an awesome D last year and that is hard to sustain year over year. But what team wouldn't want to trade places/problems with KC?
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Yesterday, 08:19 PM	#52
tredadda Three-Pat tredadda's Avatar Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs	No. If this were late December then possibly. But it’s week 2 against two of the toughest opponents KC will face all year and they are still 2-0. They will be fine.
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Why Not? In Search of a Life Why Not?'s Avatar Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Kansas	For those who are concerned, you realize these are the most points we’ve scored vs the Bengals since the Champ game we lost to them? Anorumo has our number. But no longer can beat us. We be fine.
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Yesterday, 08:23 PM	#54
Stryker UDFA Carson Steele Stryker's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Baton Rouge, LA	Absolutely NO! This is a figuring it out stage for the Chiefs. We have Reid and will adjust our offense moving forward. NOT worried at all. We just beat the Ravens and the Bengals, what are we worried about? C'mon man!
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Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Megatron96's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Phoenix, AZ	Not yet, but it bears watching, obviously. As does the progress, or not, of Kingsley.
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Yesterday, 08:35 PM	#57
TwistedChief Why so serious? TwistedChief's Avatar Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chicago	Is it unfortunate we lost our biggest offseason signing to bolster the offense? Yes. Is it disappointing our rookie LT really struggled against one of the top 10% of edge rushers in football? Kinda. Worried? Not really. Just gotta figure things out and that's no different than before.
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Yesterday, 08:38 PM	#58
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS pugsnotdrugs19's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2013	Unfortunately with the injuries to Hollywood and now Pop, the ceiling will never be reached (which I thought was surefire #1 offense in the league this year) Now it’s gonna be a bit more of a grind maybe, but I still expect an Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes unit to be more than good enough by the time it truly matters.
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