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12-16-2021, 10:14 AM | #57391 |
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12-16-2021, 10:18 AM | #57392 |
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The issue is hospitals and the level of care. It's already strained.
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12-16-2021, 10:21 AM | #57393 | |
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12-16-2021, 10:21 AM | #57394 |
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12-16-2021, 10:22 AM | #57395 |
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Close to 30% positivity rate in South Africa is insane and climbing.
The positive news about T cell testing and omicron didn't and isn't making quite the news splash as the WARNING WARNING DANGER news about neutralizing anitbodies. |
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12-16-2021, 10:53 AM | #57396 | |
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A while ago a special needs child I know was in for a long stint. They were "over capacity" then and the large majority of the beds were noncovid. If I remember right, it was a major influenza outbreak among children filling 80% of their beds. That was his reason for being there. Considering that some are hinting at declining care for the non vaccinated, it might be time people quit pointing the finger at others and start asking why "beds are expensive" has our health care facilities choosing to walk the line instead of being prepared for the known. |
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12-16-2021, 12:03 PM | #57397 | |
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Hospitals were ALWAYS strained from December through about mid-February even before COVID. It's respiratory virus season - it happens. |
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12-16-2021, 12:09 PM | #57398 | |
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They can't staff up and down; the training is simply too intense. So they shoot for the middle and they're overstaffed during summer months, understaffed during the peak. You can't just staff for a 10 week peak and then just carry it for the other 9+ months. Especially not smaller rural hospitals. They're choosing to 'walk the line' because the alternative is closing their doors. And yes, many try to hire traveling nurses during peak but so is everyone else and they're expensive as HELL on a per unit basis. Even on a nationwide basis, if you were increase the supply of nurses to an acceptable level for peak season (typically the choke point), they'd be sitting a whole lot of ass the other 9 months of the year. And who wants to do that? Who's going to go through the training and certification to show up for 3 months and then get turfed again? There's nothing resembling an easy solution here and it's a reality hospitals have faced for literally decades. People acting like this is new simply haven't been paying attention. |
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12-16-2021, 12:29 PM | #57399 | |
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12-16-2021, 01:24 PM | #57400 | |
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12-16-2021, 01:24 PM | #57401 |
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Thank you. Seems many believe hospitals in normal times are ghost towns with 100`s of empty beds but obviously that is not the case. Hospitals are almost always at near capacity and then truly are at capacity during the flu season.
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12-16-2021, 01:28 PM | #57402 |
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12-16-2021, 01:35 PM | #57403 |
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Well, I think we can atleast put to bed the whole "it was widespread in late 19, early 20 everywhere" thing. Either we're seeing alot of reinfections or there was always alot of people who had never had it out there.
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12-16-2021, 01:37 PM | #57404 |
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Why do you say that? Reports out of SA say people with preexisting infections are getting Omicron at a pretty high rate.
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12-16-2021, 01:40 PM | #57405 |
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The amount of infections being found now would lead to there being a gigantic number of reinfections. I would seriously doubt that's the case this quickly but if it is, it puts the whole "natural immunity is sturdy and long term" thing in question as well.
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