***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm really sorry you and your family have to go through all of that. I know you've had to deal with this shit personally more than once. FWIW, there are steroid equivalents. Generally, you keep the patient on dexamethasone if it is available (it is not on shortage right now) because it was the drug that was studied, but as long as he's receiving an equivalent dose (for example, 32mg of methylpred or 40mg of prednisone) the effect should hopefully be similar.

I finally had a chance to grab my notes...

Decadron.

So he's on Remdisivir, Decadron and the one time Tocilizumab treatment.

[Fish]

It's in St. Lou...

Missouri confirms first case of omicron variant in the state. Here’s what we know

The Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services announced the first case of the omicron COVID-19 variant in the state on Friday.

The department was notified of a St. Louis resident who was “presumed positive” for the omicron COVID variant after their test was taken to a commercial laboratory for surveillance. The person had recently traveled domestically. The state health department is awaiting confirmation of the positive result from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

[...]

The delta variant still comprises 99% of the COVID cases in Missouri, according to Kauerauf.

Missouri has administered 106,353 vaccinations in the past seven days, according to department data. Within that same time span, there were 10,449 new cases and 15 deaths from the virus. About 1,460 people were reported hospitalized.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I finally had a chance to grab my notes...

Decadron.

So he's on Remdisivir, Decadron and the one time Tocilizumab treatment.

That's dexamethasone. Sounds like they're doing everything they should.

[Rain Man]

I'm lying here with chills and a very sore arm for the next 24 hours, which is what happened with my last shot. I'm watching a TV show and one character gave the other a charlie horse in the upper arm and I almost started crying.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'm lying here with chills and a very sore arm for the next 24 hours, which is what happened with my last shot. I'm watching a TV show and one character gave the other a charlie horse in the upper arm and I almost started crying.

(sorry)

[suzzer99]

New data from @MIHospitalAssoc shows that the majority of Michigan residents severely sick with COVID-19 are unvaccinated. 87% of COVID ICU patients and 88% of COVID ventilator patients are unvaccinated. Protect yourself by getting a COVID-19 vaccine. https://t.co/uhFkRKhjZ2 pic.twitter.com/hefYvnP4Uf

— Michigan HHS Dept (@MichiganHHS) December 2, 2021

How is it that the do your own research crowd NEVER seems to find stuff like this in the course of their research?

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

My dad, who was hospitalized with COVID at the end of 2020 and still isn't back to normal, told me the other day he'd never get a booster (He did get 2 doses of Moderna earlier this year.). I asked him why and he had a few reasons.

1- They still don't know the long term effects of the vaccine.
I reminded him that he knows that one of the long term effects of getting COVID is death because he was a little bit close to ****ing death when he had it. I also explained that he's 80 so long term effects aren't as important. I didn't say it as rudely as it sounds when typing it.

2- He saw on the news the other day that 8.3% of the people in the hospital with COVID were fully vaccinated.
I explained that it means 91.7% weren't vaccinated. He actually acknowledged that was a good point and then followed up with number 3.

3-He doesn't think they (the government) knows what they're doing. He said that they told us we couldn't get COVID if we were vaccinated. Then they said if we got two shots we couldn't get COVID. Now they say at least three shots will be needed. He doesn't think they know what they're doing and doesn't trust them.
I stopped trying to convince him at this point. He's clearly determined not to get a booster. That's probably fine anyway because it's kind of doubtful that he'll get another severe case based on what we know at this point. I will say that the government's messaging has been terrible since the beginning. That's not a partisan thing, EVERYONE'S failed in that regard. They have changed the goal posts some which is perhaps kind of understandable as this thing evolves. People like my dad also seem incapable or unwilling to parse through it all as well.

This man has had open heart surgery and said COVID was way worse. SMH

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

My dad, who was hospitalized with COVID at the end of 2020 and still isn't back to normal, told me the other day he'd never get a booster (He did get 2 doses of Moderna earlier this year.). I asked him why and he had a few reasons.

1- They still don't know the long term effects of the vaccine.
I reminded him that he knows that one of the long term effects of getting COVID is death because he was a little bit close to ****ing death when he had it. I also explained that he's 80 so long term effects aren't as important. I didn't say it as rudely as it sounds when typing it.

2- He saw on the news the other day that 8.3% of the people in the hospital with COVID were fully vaccinated.
I explained that it means 91.7% weren't vaccinated. He actually acknowledged that was a good point and then followed up with number 3.

3-He doesn't think they (the government) knows what they're doing. He said that they told us we couldn't get COVID if we were vaccinated. Then they said if we got two shots we couldn't get COVID. Now they say at least three shots will be needed. He doesn't think they know what they're doing and doesn't trust them.
I stopped trying to convince him at this point. He's clearly determined not to get a booster. That's probably fine anyway because it's kind of doubtful that he'll get another severe case based on what we know at this point. I will say that the government's messaging has been terrible since the beginning. That's not a partisan thing, EVERYONE'S failed in that regard. They have changed the goal posts some which is perhaps kind of understandable as this thing evolves. People like my dad also seem incapable or unwilling to parse through it all as well.

This man has had open heart surgery and said COVID was way worse. SMH

I understand that people don't trust the government. I get that. There are several things though that people like this have incorrect. Most every vaccine has taken 4 shots to provide protection, yes some are 3 and all that.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I understand that people don't trust the government. I get that. There are several things though that people like this have incorrect. Most every vaccine has taken 4 shots to provide protection, yes some are 3 and all that.

The government also didn't produce the vaccines.

[AssEaterChief]

It's very ironic that people trust/believe in doctors and science when it comes to a major surgery but not in a vaccine that tens of millions of people have gotten with no adverse effects

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'm lying here with chills and a very sore arm for the next 24 hours, which is what happened with my last shot. I'm watching a TV show and one character gave the other a charlie horse in the upper arm and I almost started crying.

Hang in there. I just have a slightly sore arm and felt tired this morning but feel great now after getting the booster yesterday.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Hang in there. I just have a slightly sore arm and felt tired this morning but feel great now after getting the booster yesterday.

Don't high-five me! Don't high-five me! But thanks, and I'm glad you're back up to full strength.

I'm starting to feel better now and my low point for this shot was a lot higher than it was after the second shot. So morale is climbing.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Don't high-five me! Don't high-five me! But thanks, and I'm glad you're back up to full strength.



I'm starting to feel better now and my low point for this shot was a lot higher than it was after the second shot. So morale is climbing.

Lol. Glad to hear it man... hopefully you'll be near full strength in the morning.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by AssEaterChief

It's very ironic that people trust/believe in doctors and science when it comes to a major surgery but not in a vaccine that tens of millions of people have gotten with no adverse effects

It's rather simple. If a doctor screws up, there are outlets for settlement. If a company produces a product that gets linked to a disease even decades later, there are outlets for settlement. Whether they actually understand it or not, some people have/had a problem with the bullet points above the signature required when volunteering to become part of the experiment.

I found it more interesting that so many people suddenly became pro big Pharma after years of claiming they were the devil willing to do anything for a buck. I'm not sure many of them even realized they flipped a switch, which makes it a bit comical.

This whole ordeal has been eye opening in numerous ways.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by AssEaterChief

It's very ironic that people trust/believe in doctors and science when it comes to a major surgery but not in a vaccine that billions of people have gotten with no adverse effects

Fixed that for you!