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10-07-2020, 05:15 PM | #556 | |
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10-07-2020, 05:17 PM | #557 |
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I don't need to convince myself or others. The statistics do a pretty good job of that for me.
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10-07-2020, 05:17 PM | #558 |
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10-07-2020, 05:19 PM | #559 | |
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Also, no one cares about the Finals either. Everyone knows Lakers will win and it is boring as hell to watch with no fans.. Stop it with the LeBron GOAT talk and just talk basketball. Your obsession with LeBron is annoying. |
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10-07-2020, 05:20 PM | #560 |
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Everyone here cared about the Finals a lot more than 4 HOFers were kicking the shit out of LeBron and a bunch of scrubs two years ago, a series that was far more one-sided. I wonder why that could be.
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10-07-2020, 05:22 PM | #561 | |
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Have a good day. Enjoy the Finals, I'm sure you will since all you care about is LeBron being considered the GOAT. |
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10-07-2020, 05:23 PM | #562 |
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10-07-2020, 05:49 PM | #563 |
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10-07-2020, 05:53 PM | #564 |
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Maybe because basketball at that point hadn’t become a rotating BLM commercial where we have to hear how every millionaire’s life has been so very hard . . . . .
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10-08-2020, 12:40 AM | #565 |
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10-08-2020, 12:43 AM | #566 |
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I can only presume you don't actually watch these games because I don't recall hearing anything about BLM (or even anything even similar) for at least a good month now on these broadcasts from anyone. It's only a thing for anybody choosing to make it a thing.
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10-08-2020, 05:13 AM | #567 |
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KCC has been obsessed ever since 80% of the league identified MJ as the goat. Maybe more after the Last Dance aired. Thus his "True GOAT" shtick. Not sure if he cried more after the poll came out, The Royals kicked the Jay's ass in the playoffs or when Ador posterized Bautista with a beautiful right hand.
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10-08-2020, 08:53 AM | #568 | |
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Interestingly, I just happened to stumble onto an article from Scott Ostler of the LA Times a few days ago written in '89 - before Jordan had made any post-season noise. He was building his All-Time NBA starting 5. Chamberlain -- C Baylor -- PF Bird -- SF Magic -- G Michael Jordan -- G "While everyone else was trying to invent the wheel, Jordan showed up with a radial tire..." This idea that there was a national sentiment that Jordan was an overrated ball-hog is just something that Jordan spent a decade convincing himself of because...that's what Jordan did. When this article was written Michael Jordan was twenty five years old and playing in his 4th full season in the league. He was nothing resembling Michael Jordan and the Bulls dynasty wasn't even an inkling in anyone's minds. But people absolutely knew what an overwhelming force of nature he was and they knew it immediately. And yes, Lebrons longevity at 35 is exceptional, but lets not act like Jordan was creaking around in his last Bulls season. Jordans PER, WAR and VORP respectively in 97-98: 25.2, 15.8, 7.1 Lebron's PER, WAR and VORP respectively in 19-20: 25.5, 9.8, 6.1 Granted, if it's all about resumes then ultimately the fact that James DIDN'T retire and seems likely to continue playing at a high level for a bit longer matters. But if we're talking about who we'd want at his apex leading our basketball team with our freedom on the line? I know who I'd take. I'd say Jordan's peak as a pure ballplayer was 86-91 and in that time he averaged a 31.1 PER, put up 97.2 wins and 55.9 VORP. Lebron's peak was probably 08-13 and he went for a 30.4 PER, 88 wins and a 47.4 VORP. At their peaks, regardless of team outcomes, Jordan was a better basketball player. Factor in team outcomes and Jordan will almost certainly have a better career there as well. Longevity is the only real feather in LeBron's cap but when you look at Jordan's durability (only 1 injury in his entire career - his foot injury his second season) and the high level he was playing at in his final season in Chicago, there's little reason to believe he couldn't have continued to be an elite player. I've loathed Jordan forever. Still can't stand him. But he's the 'true GOAT'. |
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10-08-2020, 08:59 AM | #569 | |
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Please do explain which one of those Brees lacks. I'm curious to hear how how a 6-year run where he averaged 5k yards passing/season when prior to the start of that run there had been 4 such seasons in NFL history fails to qualify as a 'peak' or how being the all time leader in passing yards and passing touchdowns doesn't reach the 'longevity' mark. Please - expound. |
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10-08-2020, 09:04 AM | #570 |
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Why do we care so much that LeBron isn't Jordan? Are there people that aren't happy with Mahomes because think peak Montana was better? Are there people that are upset with Mike Trout because they think Willie Mays was better?
Like seriously it's a petty argument, LeBron plays now, he's a top 10 player of all time, enjoy watching him you don't get to see that shit all that often. Sometimes I think it's this weird nostalgia shit that everything was better when I was a kid. |
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