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Deberg_1990 · 11-21-2017, 04:16 PM

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Yet, here we are looking at the same Kansas City Chiefs offense we've seen year after year.

The Chiefs have made three playoff appearances since Reid took over as head coach in 2013, losing once in the wild-card game (2013) and twice in the divisional round (2015, 2016). I'm a fan of Reid and quarterback Alex Smith, but with the way things are right now, they'll be sitting at home while Pittsburgh and New England duke it out on Championship Sunday.

I was Smith's teammate in San Francisco for one year (2010) and I got to know him well. When the weather starts playing a bigger factor in games late in the season, he's not a guy who can make tough throws in tough conditions. He's particular and wants the football a certain way. The colder the weather the firmer the ball and other conditions make the ball slippery. It's really hard to play in inclement weather as a quarterback, yet there are some guys -- like Brett Favre -- who could grab a ball out of a bucket of water or pile of mud and hurl it downfield. But everybody's not like that, including Smith. The conditions have to be right and the running game has to be there. As we've witnessed throughout his career, Smith isn't often going to transcend an offense and win a game on huge throws -- a frequent critique. He's just not that type of quarterback.

Early in the season, we saw Smith make those big plays and the Chiefs were rolling. We've seen downfield shots slowly digress as the season's gone on, a trend that goes back to at least the past two seasons. Since 2015, Smith has been far more effective throwing the ball down field (20-pus air yards) through the Chiefs' first eight games than he has in their final eight, completing more passes (42.1 percent vs. 36.7 percent) with a better TD-to-INT ratio (8:0 vs. 2:4) and a significantly higher passer rating (124.3 vs. 63.1).

Furthermore, since Smith's first year with the Chiefs in 2013, his passer rating on pass attempts of more than 20 yards has fallen off in the second half of the season.

September: 92.0
October: 111.1
November: 63.5
Dec.-Jan.: 68.8

The Chiefs' high-flying offense started to stall after the Steelers exposed a weakness in Week 6. Pittsburgh played more zone coverage and allowed them to throw the ball underneath by respecting the ability of Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce to make things happen downfield. In addition, the run game hasn't been as effective the last five games (the Chiefs are 1-4 in that stretch), averaging 81 rush yards per game. That's 70 yards per game fewer than Kansas City put up in its first five games (all wins). In my opinion, Smith needs the run game to improve or we'll likely see him continue to struggle throwing the ball downfield as this season progresses.

I know this sounds crazy, but there's a case for Patrick Mahomes, who played well in the preseason, to start in place of Smith as the playoffs near. The Chiefs gave up a third-rounder and next year's first to draft Mahomes, viewing him as their franchise quarterback of the future. He's a gunslinger who adds another dimension in the pass game when a) the weather worsens, and b) they're trying to go head to head with the AFC's best offenses.

It's definitely possible the Chiefs could find themselves in a Nathan Peterman situation, especially if they don't handle the timing of the switch well. We don't know. What I do know, though, is we can expect the same ending to the Chiefs' story if they don't change up their cast of characters.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-limits-chiefs

Best22 · 01-01-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan

KC has too many "ifs" on their offense

We're a top 5 offense

At first I thought you were a Chief fan, then I realized you are a scared Bronco fan trying to talk yourself into feeling better about your teams sorry situation.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-01-2018, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott

You can take your dumb ass back the the Mange where it belongs. You are only here to troll and piss on everyones parade because the Donkey’s season is over. As for you attitude suggestions, you can cram ‘em up your ass you butt****ing moron.

Take out the trash....

Pueblo Chieftan · 01-01-2018, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

We're a top 5 offense

At first I thought you were a Chief fan, then I realized you are a scared Bronco fan trying to talk yourself into feeling better about your teams sorry situation.

I am a Chiefs fan. I've been a Chiefs fan most of my life...despite never having lived in Kansas. It was the all-red uniforms that attracted me as a youngster. It is my favorite color and my favorite football team. Same with the Royals. They are my favorite baseball team and have been since the 1980's.

I'm not a flat-lander by any means, however, I really like the Flint hills, the Ozark mountains and the greater metropolitan Kansas city area in general

OKchiefs · 01-01-2018, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan

I am a Chiefs fan. I've been a Chiefs fan most of my life...despite never having lived in Kansas. It was the all-red uniforms that attracted me as a youngster. It is my favorite color and my favorite football team. Same with the Royals. They are my favorite baseball team and have been since the 1980's.

I'm not a flat-lander by any means, however, I really like the Flint hills, the Ozark mountains and the greater metropolitan Kansas city area in general

Chiefs aren't in Kansas. If you don't even know what state they're in...

Best22 · 01-01-2018, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan

I am a Chiefs fan. I've been a Chiefs fan most of my life...despite never having lived in Kansas. It was the all-red uniforms that attracted me as a youngster. It is my favorite color and my favorite football team. Same with the Royals. They are my favorite baseball team and have been since the 1980's.

I'm not a flat-lander by any means, however, I really like the Flint hills, the Ozark mountains and the greater metropolitan Kansas city area in general

We didn't wear all red till 2014
Chiefs are in Missouri
"Flatlanders?"

Are you sure you weren't a Bronco fan?

Pueblo Chieftan · 01-01-2018, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott

You can take your dumb ass back the the Mange where it belongs. You are only here to troll and piss on everyones parade because the Donkey’s season is over. As for you attitude suggestions, you can cram ‘em up your ass you butt****ing moron.

I'll assume that you have a paper-thin spirit? I see a lot of out-of-whack-ego and warped thought processes in your statement. Just out of curiosity, were you raised in a single mother household?

Anyway, I don't know what the mange is but it doesn't sound healthy

Spott · 01-01-2018, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan

Lynch won't be a starter in Denver. He may not even be on their roster next year. You may not realize this but the Broncos have a stud in the stable, too. His name is Chad Kelly. Although he is currently on IR, he seems as good as Mahomes and shows as much promise at this point.

Kelly = Mahomes

100% Donkey, no doubt about it.

St. Patty's Fire · 01-01-2018, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan

I am a Chiefs fan. I've been a Chiefs fan most of my life...despite never having lived in Kansas.

Come on, man. This is some pretty awful, transparent trolling. Try harder.

Pueblo Chieftan · 01-01-2018, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

We didn't wear all red till 2014
Chiefs are in Missouri
"Flatlanders?"

Are you sure you weren't a Bronco fan?

Yes. I'm sure of it. What I meant to say by that is that I don't like the yellow, except with the alternate black, however, I do like the red pants and jersey combination though. Also, I'm of Apache Indian and Russian ancestry. So, the "bronco busting cowboy" image is not something that I ever gravitated towards in a team mascot

Pueblo Chieftan · 01-01-2018, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnDONsey

Come on, man. This is some pretty awful, transparent trolling. Try harder.

Lol

My apologies to every Missourian in the great Show-Me-State

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-01-2018, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Mahomes hit Robinson in the hands in the end zone and he dropped it.

You are one dumb SOB.

cause that didnt happen to Smith 8 times this season

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-01-2018, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Then I got to see Mahomes drafted and play. Holy shit.

Wait has Mahomes played an NFL game that wasn't a throwaway or preseason game?

Pueblo Chieftan · 01-01-2018, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Chiefs aren't in Kansas. If you don't even know what state they're in...

Yes, Missouri.

Raytown, Missouri, actually.

ChiefsCountry · 01-01-2018, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut

Wait has Mahomes played an NFL game that wasn't a throwaway or preseason game?

Enjoy Cleveland Tiger****.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-01-2018, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut

Wait has Mahomes played an NFL game that wasn't a throwaway or preseason game?

Dude, really.... just stop.

Such a hater.

11-21-2017, 04:16 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Deberg_1990's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx.	David Carr " Chiefs have higher upside with Mahomes" The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Yet, here we are looking at the same Kansas City Chiefs offense we've seen year after year. The Chiefs have made three playoff appearances since Reid took over as head coach in 2013, losing once in the wild-card game (2013) and twice in the divisional round (2015, 2016). I'm a fan of Reid and quarterback Alex Smith, but with the way things are right now, they'll be sitting at home while Pittsburgh and New England duke it out on Championship Sunday. I was Smith's teammate in San Francisco for one year (2010) and I got to know him well. When the weather starts playing a bigger factor in games late in the season, he's not a guy who can make tough throws in tough conditions. He's particular and wants the football a certain way. The colder the weather the firmer the ball and other conditions make the ball slippery. It's really hard to play in inclement weather as a quarterback, yet there are some guys -- like Brett Favre -- who could grab a ball out of a bucket of water or pile of mud and hurl it downfield. But everybody's not like that, including Smith. The conditions have to be right and the running game has to be there. As we've witnessed throughout his career, Smith isn't often going to transcend an offense and win a game on huge throws -- a frequent critique. He's just not that type of quarterback. Early in the season, we saw Smith make those big plays and the Chiefs were rolling. We've seen downfield shots slowly digress as the season's gone on, a trend that goes back to at least the past two seasons. Since 2015, Smith has been far more effective throwing the ball down field (20-pus air yards) through the Chiefs' first eight games than he has in their final eight, completing more passes (42.1 percent vs. 36.7 percent) with a better TD-to-INT ratio (8:0 vs. 2:4) and a significantly higher passer rating (124.3 vs. 63.1). Furthermore, since Smith's first year with the Chiefs in 2013, his passer rating on pass attempts of more than 20 yards has fallen off in the second half of the season. September: 92.0 October: 111.1 November: 63.5 Dec.-Jan.: 68.8 The Chiefs' high-flying offense started to stall after the Steelers exposed a weakness in Week 6. Pittsburgh played more zone coverage and allowed them to throw the ball underneath by respecting the ability of Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce to make things happen downfield. In addition, the run game hasn't been as effective the last five games (the Chiefs are 1-4 in that stretch), averaging 81 rush yards per game. That's 70 yards per game fewer than Kansas City put up in its first five games (all wins). In my opinion, Smith needs the run game to improve or we'll likely see him continue to struggle throwing the ball downfield as this season progresses. I know this sounds crazy, but there's a case for Patrick Mahomes, who played well in the preseason, to start in place of Smith as the playoffs near. The Chiefs gave up a third-rounder and next year's first to draft Mahomes, viewing him as their franchise quarterback of the future. He's a gunslinger who adds another dimension in the pass game when a) the weather worsens, and b) they're trying to go head to head with the AFC's best offenses. It's definitely possible the Chiefs could find themselves in a Nathan Peterman situation, especially if they don't handle the timing of the switch well. We don't know. What I do know, though, is we can expect the same ending to the Chiefs' story if they don't change up their cast of characters. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-limits-chiefs
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