***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

You need better reading skills.

That's rich coming from you.

[emaw1979]

Wife and Son tested positive for covid this week. After two tests over the last 4 days, I am still negative. Why is this? Both of them have symptoms. We aren’t social distancing etc. no vax. Is it because I already had covid?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by emaw1979

Wife and Son tested positive for covid this week. After two tests over the last 4 days, I am still negative. Why is this? Both of them have symptoms. We aren’t social distancing etc. no vax. Is it because I already had covid?

It's certainly possible. Just like the vaccines, the level of protection from previous infection varies, but it definitely doesn't hurt. Are you saying you actually had a confirmed case before, or are you wondering if you had it and didn't know it?

Beyond that, viruses are just weird, so it's possible your immune system could have fought it off even without previous infection.

[Ninerfan11]

Originally Posted by emaw1979

Wife and Son tested positive for covid this week. After two tests over the last 4 days, I am still negative. Why is this? Both of them have symptoms. We aren’t social distancing etc. no vax. Is it because I already had covid?

If you have natural immunity, you are likely well protected, better than the vaccine. I would make sure they are getting Vitamin D and sunlight.

[O.city]

If you've had covid, you've got some immunity. It's also a bit early. Could go longer.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

If you have natural immunity, you are likely well protected, better than the vaccine. I would make sure they are getting Vitamin D and sunlight.

LOL WUT

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

LOL WUT

A now retracted study from Israel showed natural immunity had slightly better protection than the vaccines.

Natural immunity does offer very good protection for around 85% of people who recover from COVID.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

A now retracted study from Israel showed natural immunity had slightly better protection than the vaccines.

Natural immunity does offer very good protection for around 85% of people who recover from COVID.

Why was it retracted?

[TLO]

Descending from Delta. This is as good as the world has looked in many months@OurWorldInData pic.twitter.com/0vEYnFBQHY

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) September 29, 2021

[Pitt Gorilla]

Key results of on the association between Covid-19 illness and cognitive abilities in hospitalised & non hospitalised members of the UK general public. 1/7 The severity of respiratory symptoms predicted cognitive performance months post recovery. https://t.co/DMU93E9zBA pic.twitter.com/uXjLLuSc7Q

— Adam Hampshire (@HampshireHub) July 23, 2021

[MahomesMagic]

It's likely true that in the case of vax immunity, which is limited ONLY to spike protein, antibody level will make a difference in protection.

BUT, natural immunity is highly likely to be far more robust, bc it is a more diverse antigenic response.

— Hooman Noorchashm MD, PhD (@noorchashm) September 28, 2021

[emaw1979]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's certainly possible. Just like the vaccines, the level of protection from previous infection varies, but it definitely doesn't hurt. Are you saying you actually had a confirmed case before, or are you wondering if you had it and didn't know it?

Beyond that, viruses are just weird, so it's possible your immune system could have fought it off even without previous infection.

Yes, I had tested positive before. It’s been nearly 6 months. I had very minor symptoms. Wife and I at the time were on separate work schedules so it worked out we didn’t see each other for a week or so much at all.

This time though, we’ve been inseparable for a week while she’s had it. Sleeping in same bed, both off work, holding hands, snuggling in couch, etc. She has very mild symptoms (runny nose, slight cough, loss of taste and smell) son has drainage issues, slight cough and had a 101.3 temp last night.

[O.city]

If you have had Covid, you're fine.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by O.city

If you have had Covid, you're fine.

Yep. While it's not a 100% guarantee, having a previous infection seems to be roughly on par with being vaccinated from what I can tell, though the data's still pretty fuzzy.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by TLO

Why was it retracted?

Not sure. I had it bookmarked, and when I went back to read it again, the site said it had been retracted.