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#5551 |
pie is never free
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: the drivers seat
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Shouldn't this pretty much sink Boeing?
Between this and the litany of commercial liner disasters, things should be looking very grim for them |
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#5552 | |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Donkey Land
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More broadly, I doubt it'll have a huge impact on Boeing's bottom line in the short-term. They have annual revenues of around $80 billion, so Starliner makes up a relatively tiny piece of the pie. There's no question that their brand has taken a huge hit, though. |
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#5553 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2019
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Boeing's problem is they have gotten so big and stodgy they confuse the symbols of good performance with actual good performance. They think they did well because a line on a financial statement looks pretty good. The executives pat themselves on the ass because they saved a buck here. The fact they couldn't produce a functional space craft....well thats just a blip they'll figure out in the next quarter. |
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#5554 | |
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Newport, Or
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#5555 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2019
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This is especially true in old stodgy corporations where it is the board that has the mental defect of confusing symbols of good performance with actual good performance. Get them to sign on the bottom line and that is good performance. Doesn't matter if your planes crash and your spacecraft are junk....that's just an unfortunate that will be figured out later. |
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Repeal the 19th Amendment
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: RGV TX (via KC & ATX)
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#5557 |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Donkey Land
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Wow. You don't often see Gwynne getting spicy.
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#5558 |
"Think BOOM!"
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W
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Yeesh...
NASA gave another non-update to the media on its crewed Boeing CST-100 Starliner mission. The agency still doesn’t know when astronauts Sunita Williams and Butch Wilmore will come home from the International Space Station, and it doesn’t have a firm date for when it will make a decision on the matter. However, NASA did let slip a development that could potentially crank up a massive source of embarrassment for Boeing. Last week, NASA said that if it can’t send its crew home on the Starliner, it might have to send them back on a SpaceX Dragon vessel — in February! — and if that happens, the photos of the crew walking on Earth could feature Boeing’s arch-rival’s space suits instead of the get-ups they launched with. “From a suit standpoint, they’re really not interchangeable,” said Joel Montalbano, the deputy associate administrator of NASA’s Space Operations Mission Directorate. “You can’t have a Boeing suit in a SpaceX [vehicle], or a SpaceX suit in a Boeing vehicle. So that would not be the plan.” Boeing representatives were not present on the call. Speculation continues to mount that the Starliner mission is already a failure — there are fears the ship might not even be able to undock from the International Space Station without its crew — but NASA has not conceded that point yet. For weeks, it has been testing and reviewing data about its thrusters to assess the vulnerabilities created by helium leaks. The gas is used to control the thrusters, and though NASA has said there is plenty of helium on board to get them home, it has yet to commit to a return mission. |
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#5559 |
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2024
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Hopefully NASA will avoid Boeing like the plague going forward.
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#5560 | |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Donkey Land
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Thankfully, that issue was really obvious, so it only took a couple of weeks to get them flying again, but it's not out of the question an incident could ground SpaceX for months. NASA doesn't want to have to rely on the Russians to get people to/from ISS, so they would really prefer to have two options for U.S.-based rides. That means continuing to work to get Boeing certified even as frustrating as the process has been. |
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#5561 | |
Elway be drinkin' again
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Colorado USA
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Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: Laguna Niguel, CA
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#5563 |
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Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: Laguna Niguel, CA
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If they have to stay there until February, are they going to start growing potatoes to keep from starving?
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#5564 |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Donkey Land
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Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: Laguna Niguel, CA
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