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Old 07-25-2017, 12:10 PM  
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:40 PM   #541
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Escobar will be a much needed addition for the red zone offense.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:40 PM   #542
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You don't think Cam Newton/Russell Wilson/Andrew Luck/ Mariota/Winston wouldn't succeed against the 2nd and 3rd string defense going into their respective camps as a rookie?
All he's saying is pump the brakes on all the hype...
Mahomes can only play against who the coach puts on the field but you know he will continue to improve and move up on the depth chart and eventually take over Alex Smith job. So there is hype and he deserves the hype he gets.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:45 PM   #543
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Escobar will be a much needed addition for the red zone offense.
The third string TE for the Cowboys is going to be the red zone savior for Alex Smith.

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Old 07-29-2017, 01:47 PM   #544
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The third string TE for the Cowboys is going to be the red zone savior for Alex Smith.

Well, it won't take much for Escobar to be a better Red Zone target (or receiver, for that matter) than Demetrius Harris.

I'm looking forward to seeing Ross Travis in preseason. He spent a portion of the offseason here in LA, training with Glazer and Tony Gonzalez.

Hopefully, he's progressed.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:48 PM   #545
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Were gonna keep 4 TEs Kelce, Harris, Escobar, Travis
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:48 PM   #546
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Well, it won't take much for Escobar to be a better Red Zone target (or receiver, for that matter) than Demetrius Harris.
Actually Harris was pretty good in the red zone last year
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:49 PM   #547
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Actually Harris was pretty good in the red zone last year
Harris has hands of stone.

The guy had ****ing 1 TD last year.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:50 PM   #548
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Were gonna keep 4 TEs Kelce, Harris, Escobar, Travis
I sure as **** hope not. That's waste of a roster spot.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:51 PM   #549
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Well, it won't take much for Escobar to be a better Red Zone target (or receiver, for that matter) than Demetrius Harris.

I'm looking forward to seeing Ross Travis in preseason. He spent a portion of the offseason here in LA, training with Glazer and Tony Gonzalez.

Hopefully, he's progressed.
I'd like to see Harris develop some hands, along with Travis.

Escobar has been garbage in Dallas.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:52 PM   #550
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The third string TE for the Cowboys is going to be the red zone savior for Alex Smith.

Nobody was expecting Escobar to replace Witten. But in the red zone, Escobar scored 4 times on 9 receptions in 2014 to Witten's 5 TD's total for the entire season.

If he can stay healthy and improve his blocking, he'll be a red zone target and a more reliable one than Demetrius Harris ever was.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:53 PM   #551
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I'd like to see Harris develop some hands, along with Travis.

Escobar has been garbage in Dallas.
Escobar had limited snaps in Dallas due to Witten. He had 8 TD's in four seasons (30 receptions), which is far more than Harris or Travis combined.

All I know is that someone needs to step up and be the #2 TE because having 3 broke dick backups doesn't help the team.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:54 PM   #552
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I'd like to see Harris develop some hands, along with Travis.

Escobar has been garbage in Dallas.
You can't teach players to catch at this level. They either have it or they don't. Route running is different story (see Michael Crabtree).
Ginn is a fine example, hasn't improved his catching ability at all and the only thing keeping him around is elite speed.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:55 PM   #553
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Actually Harris was pretty good in the red zone last year
He had two 2 point conversions (one taken away) and a single TD. He missed one that was point blank too.

For the season, he had the highest drop rate of any player.

I expect the Chiefs to part ways with him at some point in the near future, especially with his character issues surfacing.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:56 PM   #554
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Zoomed in on the action here. Just very, very smooth with his dropback and delivery.



Nice ball placement here that allowed for YAC.



Avoided the rush and stayed in the pocket and found the open man here. Really nice stuff.



Runs it in for the TD. Definitely felt like Wilson here.



Four plays, 1:04, TD. #SEX
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:58 PM   #555
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Harris has hands of stone.

The guy had ****ing 1 TD last year.
He was key in helping us beat the Donkeys
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