***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by jdubya

France just went from self quarantine to police state today.

Ah martial law....I've seen the conspiracy nuts going crazy about that here lately, that this is another way for your rights to be taken away.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Amazon has shutdown 3rd party sellers till April 5th, if you order you have to order from Amazon to still get it shipped.

via GIPHY

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Lprechaun

All bars and nightclubs close by 8 pm i think it is. Restaurants have to cut capacity to 50% and will be set lower shortly. My wife manages a salon and with the amount of elderly people that come in they are effectively shut down due to the close contact needed.
My work is in people's homes, people who want to isolate from others. It's the right thing to do but it's going to hurt.
I'm also going to be dropping my rate to help those who are also affected once it's over.

In my county here in NorCal this was mandated 2 days ago.....48 hours later we are directed for self isolation. Groceries, pharmacies, care givers only allowed on the road. The mandates change every 8-12 hours

[notorious]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Kansans will have to self quarantine with their livestock

For some men it will be a step down in weight class.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by jdubya

In my county here in NorCal this was mandated 2 days ago.....48 hours later we are directed for self isolation. Groceries, pharmacies, care givers only allowed on the road. The mandates change every 8-12 hours

WTF? You can't even go for a drive or drive out and go for a walk on a trail?


Yeah, the government is overstepping here.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Ah martial law....I've seen the conspiracy nuts going crazy about that here lately, that this is another way for your rights to be taken away.

Most of Europe are used to being told what to do and this is no big deal to them. If it happens here on a national level, fasten your seatbelts because we will be in for a bumpy ride lol.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Most of Europe are used to being told what to do and this is no big deal to them. If it happens here on a national level, fasten your seatbelts because we will be in for a bumpy ride lol.

Ah you mean like the people I've seen on social media posting pics of guns saying "you can't quarantine me this is america"

[ping2000]

Originally Posted by Donger

It's fascinating that India only has 142 cases.

Is curry an antiviral agent?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Ah martial law....I've seen the conspiracy nuts going crazy about that here lately, that this is another way for your rights to be taken away.

...but it's not a conspiracy - it just happened there.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by loochy

WTF? You can't even go for a drive or drive out and go for a walk on a trail?


Yeah, the government is overstepping here.

I`m not sure. I know for certain they are saying no gatherings of 10 or more people.....I suppose one can go for walks or a drive so far.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by notorious

For some men it will be a step down in weight class.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Ah you mean like the people I've seen on social media posting pics of guns saying "you can't quarantine me this is america"

Only fools show their hand

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by loochy

...but it's not a conspiracy - it just happened there.

Yea but is it really anything more than people are being dumb ****s that don't listen? I mean when you're told hey don't go anywhere then I see that beach picture it makes me question of people are to stupid to survive.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by ping2000

Is curry an antiviral agent?

Actually, perhaps. Circumin, the main compound in turmeric (which is found in large amounts in curry) is a powerful anti-inflammatory that carries a wide range of additional health benefits.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by jdubya

I`m not sure. I know for certain they are saying no gatherings of 10 or more people.....I suppose one can go for walks or a drive so far.

That makes more sense.