***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

The state is estimating the numbers of cases caused by the novel coronavirus outbreak will peak in 45 days, at which point it will need between 55,000 and 110,000 hospital beds, as well as 18,600 to 37,200 intensive-care unit beds, Cuomo told reporters in Albany.

"Cases" of COVID-19 is not the same as "Cases with significant medical complications requiring hospitalization from COVID-19".

80% of the "cases" of COVID-19 will be minimal to no symptoms and require no hospitalization or medical attention.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...-us-california

[Dunerdr]

This thread almost has enough pages to make Jalen Ramsey a Chief!

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Donger

I'm starting to hate this ****ing bug.

Oh, you're just now starting, eh?

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by loochy

Oh, you're just now starting, eh?

Someone is late to the party.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...-us-california

Yeah it's even on the uptick around here. Personally, I'm all good.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...-us-california

Yeah, I went to get a couple of cases of Wolf Gold .223 because I just try to buy a case every few months to build a decent stockpile in the event they eventually outlaw the damn things.

Unfortunately I never got around to actually placing the order. Just went and checked all my usual spots and they had 80+ cases each a week ago - every last one of them are sold out now.

Oh well. The real problem is that I only have about 40 7mm mag rounds so if I gotta go hunting for my food for awhile, I'm gonna have to become a better shot real fast...

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Donger

I'm starting to hate this ****ing bug.

I'm still on the fence.

[FloridaMan88]

Macy's and Nordstroms now shutting down all stores.

Marriott will begin to furlough employees.

The job losses are about to be horrific.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Fish

More Chiefs players helping the community...

Travis Kelce says he’ll double Tyreek Hill’s donation plus give to Operation Breakthrough

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce announced Tuesday that not only is he matching teammate Tyreek Hill’s donation to Harvesters, he’s doubling it and also donating to Operation Breakthrough.

“I got your 6k and will raise you another 6k meals,” Kelce tweeted in response to Hill’s challenge.

Together, they will donate 18,000 meals to Harvesters to give to local families struggling to find food during the coronavirus outbreak.

Kelce also said he wants to make sure local children who rely on Operation Breakthrough have the food and supplies they need. He will donate all the food and supplies they need for the next 15 weeks “to keep it business as usual for the kids.”

Hill started the challenge on Twitter Monday.

“The COVID-19 outbreak is changing our daily lives,” Hill tweeted. “Today my foundation will be partnering with Harvesters to donate meals to families and youth who are now without their free breakfast and lunch programs.”

In his announcement, Hill also challenged teammates Patrick Mahomes, Demarcus Robinson, Gehrig Dieter, Tyrann Mathieu and Frank Clark.

Kelce was the first to respond.

Hill also said he is challenging all of Chiefs Kingdom to help in anyway they can.

So is he matching or doubling? Aren't they the same thing?

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

"Cases" of COVID-19 is not the same as "Cases with significant medical complications requiring hospitalization from COVID-19".

80% of the "cases" of COVID-19 will be minimal to no symptoms and require no hospitalization or medical attention.

When it's all said and done you will probably not know anyone who dies from it but you will know a lot of people who's lives will be destroyed because of the economic fallout from shutting down an economy.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I actually think it's very possible we could be the Truman Show for some Alien Species. It would not surprise me.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

They have been reading my posts. It would also suggest in my opinion that this won’t be quite the issue at all next winter because people will not be exposed all at once like now since it’s brand new. Once it’s just out there people will get it as they do now with every other cold or flu, which is generally spread out geographically and over time and it won’t put pressure on healthcare, which really seems to be one of main concerns right now.

It's tough on many levels. IMHO, that's primarily because there is so much uncertainty, Mr. mr. tegu. In other words, the unknowns are unknown.

Another issue is the panic and hysteria. If you've ever tried to calm down a person who is experiencing a severe panic attack, you know that there are only two quick ways to do it; either inject them with a barbiturate or use a 2x4 and crack them between the eyes.

When you dig deep into the numbers (after turning off the teevee news) and listen to experts in the field (not the teevee talking-head types), you begin to see another side to this ... Italy's problems notwithstanding.

There is a lot wrong right now, but what is NOT wrong is to acquire knowledge and exercise Basic Common Sense. Those two things rarely kill people or spread virulent diseases.

FAX

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...-us-california

Actually, I had to give you a thumbs up on that for the reminder. The only caliber I was getting low on was the .500 Smith & Wesson. That's no longer an issue, at least it won't be when the mother load hits my door step at the beginning of next week.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by patteeu

So is he matching or doubling? Aren't they the same thing?

It sounds like he's doubling the match. We'll see if other Chiefs have been paying attention to the exponential growth lessons of the virus if others continue to do that.