***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[wazu]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

What? He didn't make any kind of point in that article. Shit just ended.

Yeah, I thought I knew where he was going and then...nothing. He states that Uncle Jimmy "took the COVID bullet" for him. The only way I can interpret that making sense would be if it scared him into getting himself vaccinated. Cause otherwise that bullet is still flying around.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by wazu

Yeah, I thought I knew where he was going and then...nothing. He states that Uncle Jimmy "took the COVID bullet" for him. The only way I can interpret that making sense would be if it scared him into getting himself vaccinated. Cause otherwise that bullet is still flying around.

He ends with I gotta lose weight. He's Jimmy's big brother even though Jimmy is older because Jimmy is half his size. Jimmy is struggling hard with covid, what if it'd been him. Mortality thing

Yeah, some of the covid part makes you think he's going that way but he never says much. It could have used some editing.

[Bearcat]

Sometimes I start a post with good intentions and then after making a few disjointed points and add in some rambling, I'll read back and realize I've forgotten where the **** I was going with it, so I'll just back out and post a gif.

I feel like Whitlock should have just posted a gif.

[WhawhaWhat]

Nightmare scenario in Dallas:

COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations are surging, and in Dallas there are “zero ICU beds left for children,” Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins said in a news conference Friday morning.

“That means if your child’s in a car wreck, if your child has a congenital heart defect or something and needs an ICU bed, or more likely if they have COVID and need an ICU bed, we don’t have one. Your child will wait for another child to die,” Jenkins said. “Your child will just not get on the ventilator, your child will be CareFlighted to Temple or Oklahoma City or wherever we can find them a bed, but they won’t be getting one here unless one clears.”

The judge added no ICU beds have been available for children for at least 24 hours. The Texas Department of State Health Services said the shortage of pediatric ICU beds is related to a shortage in medical staff.

“Hospitals are licensed for a specific number of beds and most hospitals regularly staff fewer beds than they are licensed for. They can’t use beds that aren’t staffed. With the increase in COVID cases, hospitals are experiencing a shortage of people to staff the beds that they are licensed for,” department spokesperson Lara Anton said in an email, adding that staffing agencies in the state are working on recruiting medical surge staff from across the US.

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2021/08/13/...tric-icu-beds/

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Nightmare scenario in Dallas:



https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2021/08/13/...tric-icu-beds/

I heard that the border is getting hammered with 40% covid positive immigrants daily......That is a nightmare for sure

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Agree. I believe the Super spreaders of all "Super Spreaders" must be the southern border.

Even the idiots can agree to that right?

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Agree. I believe the Super spreaders of all "Super Spreaders" must be the southern border.

Even the idiots can agree to that right?

Like the southern border of Missouri and Alaska?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by jdubya

I heard that the border is getting hammered with 40% covid positive immigrants daily......That is a nightmare for sure

Link?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by jdubya

I heard that the border is getting hammered with 40% covid positive immigrants daily......That is a nightmare for sure

Dallas is closer to Wichita, KS than the Mexican border.

[jdubya]

"Link" BS? really? whatever

Do you not realize daily immigrants are being flown and bussed all over the place?

Honest question, do some of you really believe my backyard BBQ`s or shopping at Safeway is spreading this virus more than the purge of illegals coming over the border and being displaced throughout the US? Are you serious?

This isnt a left vs right or vaccinated vs unvaccinated issue any longer........unless you want it to be

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Like the southern border of Missouri and Alaska?

Think.......think hard

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by jdubya

"Link" BS? really? whatever

Do you not realize daily immigrants are being flown and bussed all over the place?

Honest question, do some of you really believe my backyard BBQ`s or shopping at Safeway is spreading this virus more than the purge of illegals coming over the border and being displaced throughout the US? Are you serious?

This isnt a left vs right or vaccinated vs unvaccinated issue any longer........unless you want it to be

Ah. Sorry. I thought I'd just been missing some recent news. Didn't realize this was just a new version of

[suzzer99]

jdubya - you might try getting your news from sources other than Tucker Carlson.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by jdubya

"Link" BS? really? whatever

Do you not realize daily immigrants are being flown and bussed all over the place?

Honest question, do some of you really believe my backyard BBQ`s or shopping at Safeway is spreading this virus more than the purge of illegals coming over the border and being displaced throughout the US? Are you serious?

This isnt a left vs right or vaccinated vs unvaccinated issue any longer........unless you want it to be

ICU's are overflowing with covid patients, 95%+ unvaccinated, but, no this can't have anything to do with whether people are vaccinated or not.

Maybe if I think really hard I can find a scapegoat...

[carlos3652]

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/13/10270...m-to--covid-19

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sea...-june/%3famp=1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...mp/ncna1276244

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bor...as-church/amp/

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/polit...nts/index.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...covid.amp.html

After reading through those, it shows that migrants are testing positive about the same rate as the us population is … 15-20% are testing positive of those being tested coming through