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04-27-2022, 09:06 PM | #526 |
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Yea, a lot of the complaints I see about this movie seem to have one theme.
Misunderstanding. |
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04-28-2022, 08:29 AM | #527 | |
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I get that The Riddler using him was part of the overall plot and plan. It's been done before in a number of movies where our hero doesn't realize he's being used and the bad guy is one step ahead. It's just that normally, the hero bests the villain by the end of the movie (or you wait for a year for End Game to come out). In this case Batman didn't even catch the guy. He just gave himself up. But I guess if you're going to steal most of Kevin Spacey's character from Seven, might as well keep the part where he basically turns himself in to finish his plan from custody. Overall, it wasn't bad. Just flawed. I too look forward to the sequel. Like you said, it was set early in Batman's crime fighting career, so we'll see what the next one brings. |
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04-28-2022, 09:03 AM | #528 |
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It's an interesting conversation and I can see where you're coming from.
It reminds me of some debates I used to have with a group of friends who didn't like Spider-Man and Superman because they were "always getting their ass beat". Like they aren't cool superheroes with good movies because they don't just come in, kick ass and go home every time they're on screen. Personally, I enjoy my heroes facing some adversity. This is a young Batman still learning how to be a hero. The Riddler's whole deal is that he's super intelligent. It stands to reason that he'd be way ahead of Batman this whole movie. |
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04-28-2022, 12:08 PM | #529 | |
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And I definitely agree with ya that The Batman is flawed (could have done without the Riddler copy cats near the finale of the film.) I did really like how this Batman was beating himself up thru out the movie (mentally ) realizing how the Riddler outsmarted him. While he didn't care about dying, he was incredibly vulnerable with what was going on around him. Similar to transformation & character development of the lead ape Caesar(played brilliantly by Andy Serkis) in those Planet of the Apes sequels that were directed by Matt Reeves, I have no doubt Pattinson's Batman/Bruce Wayne will be further developed in a great way. |
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05-10-2022, 09:09 AM | #531 |
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Finally saw this last week. Decent film. I enjoyed it, but didn't feel like it was anything great.
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05-10-2022, 11:27 AM | #532 | |
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Everything else has been mid or bad. Honestly, if they didn't **** up Batman vs Superman so bad, I think we'd have a different discussion on comparing Batman vs MCU in terms of $. But yes, in terms of citing wokeness as to why DC would surpass Marvel is incredibly ****ing stupid. DC won't pass Marvel anytime soon in terms of $$$ at theaters until they get their shit together and figure out WTF they're doing. I think they should be fine if they don't try to rush creating a universe again and keep the WW, Aquaman, Batman entities separate. |
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05-10-2022, 11:46 AM | #533 | |
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It's more like "make shitty movies" go broke. |
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05-10-2022, 12:12 PM | #534 | |
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I don't give a shit about this superhero vs that superhero, I don't give a shit about Marvel vs DC, I don't give a shit about Disney policies. I only wanted to highlight how ****ing stupid Halfcan and the "wOkE" crowd's argument is. |
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05-10-2022, 12:16 PM | #535 |
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I just can't imagine making the "Disney is on the decline from going woke" argument literally a month after Spider-Man hit $2 billion. Now we see Strange 2 reaching $450 million globally in its first four days while Batman only hit $270 million in its first four days. It was a stupid ****ing argument then and it's a stupid ****ing argument now.
The fact of the matter is, these dipshits are not nearly as powerful as they think they are. These ****ers were crying about the kneeling a few years back and now they're crying about something about Disney (I still don't even know what..). The NFL is bigger and more popular now than it's ever been and same thing with Disney. I'd just really enjoy coming into one of these threads without these ****ers cocking it up with their anti-woke bullshit. Nobody cares, just shut the **** up and enjoy the movie! |
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05-10-2022, 12:50 PM | #536 |
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Some people just can't handle different opinions appearing in a thread.
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05-10-2022, 01:24 PM | #537 | |
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Majority of people will spend their money and not boycott a movie if they think it's good. You and Halfcan can take your shit back to DC(the forum). Which if Halfcan's talking about wokeness, the character of Catwoman in The Batman is a social class critique-specifically the ending of the movie (!). DC movies for the most part have been dog shit because Warner Bros. has interfered heavily and wanted to rush the launch of Justice League. Their movies are fine when they focus on individual characters. Joker, The Batman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman are all good movies. Why? Because they just focus on the leads and nothing else. Marvel, on the other hand, has brilliantly built out its universe over the past 14 years. There's no fair way for DC to compete unless Marvel botches or ceases production. DC still kicks Marvel's ass in animation, for big screen, it's so far behind. And Marvel being woke has nothing to do with that. Jesus ****ing Christ you guys like to bitch about nothing. |
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05-10-2022, 01:44 PM | #538 | |
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Spider man is Sony. |
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05-10-2022, 01:49 PM | #539 |
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Frankly I preferred the last Batman to all the Marvel stuff. Tired of the superpowers/gods/aliens overload.
But I'm an old fart, and clearly not part of Marvel's target demographic. I know I'm in the minority. Don't care. |
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05-12-2022, 01:29 PM | #540 |
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It wasn't as bad as Clooney's version.
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