***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

There is no way that paper towels will flush in California due to 1.2 gallons per flush toilets.

It's difficult enough to flush regular toilet paper. A paper towel would likely require the main line to be snaked.

I snapped a 9/16" cable on a toilet auger one time trying to clear a line with paper towels in it.

DON'T ****ING FLUSH PAPER TOWELS.

Unless you own your home and you are getting stuck with the bill to clear the line. Then by all means feel free to do it.

[KurtCobain]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I snapped a 9/16" cable on a toilet auger one time trying to clear a line with paper towels in it.

DON'T ****ING FLUSH PAPER TOWELS.

Unless you own your home and you are getting stuck with the bill to clear the line. Then by all means feel free to do it.

I flush all of my paper towels at McDonald's.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by KurtCobain

I flush all of my paper towels at McDonald's.

That's cool. I don't work there. In fact, I don't have to deal with toilets at all at the current time, so I take it back. Go ahead and flush whatever the hell you want down whatever toilet you want.


Unless it's in my house. You will be asked to leave.

[BryanBusby]

**** time to update my resume

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Aren't people going to die from withdrawal?

you would have to go to a detox center and get adivan

[Hammock Parties]

Getting bad on the coasts. Down in Austin, where my sister lives, they're only letting in 10 people at a time to buy food.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Getting bad on the coasts. Down in Austin, where my sister lives, they're only letting in 10 people at a time to buy food.

Well the cdc said no more then 10 people

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

**** time to update my resume

The post office is hiring.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The post office is hiring.

They're always hiring because it's not a good job anymore...I used to do it.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Mecca

They're always hiring because it's not a good job anymore...I used to do it.

It's better than starving.

And you get to work outside.

[KCUnited]

[Hammock Parties]

Kind of scary how close we are to the plot of Deus Ex.

The plot of Deus Ex depicts a society on a slow spiral into chaos. There is a massive division between the rich and the poor, not only socially, but in some cities physically.

A lethal pandemic, known as the "Gray Death", ravages the world's population, especially within the United States, and has no cure. A synthetic vaccine, "Ambrosia", manufactured by the company VersaLife, nullifies the effects of the virus but is in critically short supply.

Because of its scarcity, Ambrosia is available only to those deemed "vital to the social order", and finds its way primarily to government officials, military personnel, the rich and influential, scientists, and the intellectual elite.

With no hope for the common people of the world, riots occur worldwide, and some terrorist organizations have formed with the professed intent of assisting the downtrodden, among them the National Secessionist Forces (NSF) of the U.S. and a French group known as Silhouette.[15]

[ping2000]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Aren't people going to die from withdrawal?

According to my BIL, they will deliver.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/09/...covery-begins/



This seems like a strong argument for the mask theory.

I feel like they're still running the playbook from SARS:



What if all that stuff about droplets and washing your hands is wrong for Covid-19 and it's really airborne from people with no symptoms?

Also from a guy I know in Japan:

This would be brilliant opportunity to make cool ass masks with logos or graphic designs and just sell them as a novelty item that happens help prevent spread of air~born virus.


If I was smart with the know how and connections I'd do it.

[Hammock Parties]

From FB

Cass County, Missouri has its first case of COVID19. Cass county borders my county of Jackson, to the south. I live about two miles from Cass County line. Belton/Raymore are in Cass County. That's where I do most of my shopping needs, where my closest Walmart, Lowes, Home Depot are located. The person with COVID19 lives in Drexel, Missouri, which is far southern Cass County, Belton/Raymore are northern Cass County. I think that's a good sign. However, officials are tracing where all this person may have been over the past couple weeks or so, of which they may have exposed others. As rapidly as it's spreading, I think it's just a matter of time anyway, before it reaches most of us, no matter where we live.