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07-28-2017, 12:33 AM | #511 | |
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Tom Waits has a quote "selling wolf tickets"...and that's what you do. Own it...that's what a real winner in life would do. |
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07-28-2017, 01:16 AM | #512 | |
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Go away. |
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07-28-2017, 01:41 AM | #513 |
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I'm just impressed you made a post without calling someone a moron...
I have a book for you..dont worry, it's a quick read. Last edited by BlackOp; 07-28-2017 at 01:57 AM.. |
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07-28-2017, 01:50 AM | #514 |
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07-28-2017, 01:57 AM | #515 |
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07-28-2017, 02:15 AM | #516 |
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07-28-2017, 06:31 AM | #517 |
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07-28-2017, 06:40 AM | #518 | |
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If I recall correctly, there was a time not too long ago when you were every bit as much of a buy-in on the Chiefs moves and ways as several of the board's now current crop of vehement Reid/Clark fans. If this be the case, I congratulate you on stepping up when it has become apparent to you that this franchise has been and continues to practice some very strong, self-defeating methods and choices. |
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07-28-2017, 07:11 AM | #519 |
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Clark doesn't want to win and won't make the decisions to do so?
"The Chiefs have traded with the Buffalo Bills for the 10th pick. With the 10th pick, the Kansas City Chiefs select Patrick Mahomes II." What about that tells you we don't want to win? If this was said any time before April I would see your point, but now? FFS |
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07-28-2017, 07:16 AM | #520 | |
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When it was long past clear that Pioli needed to be fired and Clark was holding out, I was one of the people screaming along with everyone else that the decision looked right at the time but had gone terribly, terribly wrong and he needed to be fired post haste. The writing had been on the wall, yet Hunt didn't make a move until there as an unprecedented fan rebellion and the franchise had been run completely into the ground. Then he hired Dorsey. Again, Clark goes out and spends money on the best GM candidate available. He seems very much to be investing in the team and wanting to change to a football-first culture. He was wrong about Pioli but he seems to have made a great hire again. The fans, myself included, all cheerfully give him a mulligan. Then he hires Reid. Not a thrilling candidate, not someone who had done anything in the postseason in the last decade, a Marty-like hire. But at least Dorsey and Reid together are a path back to respectability and something we can build on. Both of them perform fairly well. Reid's hand-picked QB holds us back, but we get a return to contention for playoff spots, which is good. Not contending for anything beyond that, but it's better than before. Perhaps Reid will change, or Dorsey will continue raising the level of the roster until we get over the hump. But Reid doesn't change. Going into his 5th year, we still have no playoff wins against quality, playoff-worthy opponents. Reid continually hurts the team on game day and in some instances blows games himself. The team is aging on defense and needs to reload. But we finally draft a QB. Maybe this is finally what gets us over the hump. There's hope again. Then Dorsey is suddenly fired, for reasons no one in the organization can credibly articulate. Reid, who has never been good enough to get over the hump, is given a long-term contract. Ballard is gone. Others are gone. A green GM from down in the organization is promoted but not really given oversight over football, only personnel. Power has left the most competent individuals we had in the organization and landed on Reid's desk. Explain how this makes the team better? Unless you're a total True Fan you're left wondering why Clark decided to allow the entire Front Office to turn over when things were going well. Clark had some capital at first by getting rid of Peterson and making two big time GM hires, but now it just looks like he doesn't know what he's doing and he retains and/or fires people based on things other than football. Until ownership focuses entirely on what happens between the chalk, we aren't going to win championships. Where do we go from here? Mahomes. If he turns into a great QB, it will cover a multitude of sins. Maybe even a coach like Andy Reid who doesn't win in the postseason can get over the hump if he lands a generational QB. If he doesn't work out, we're going to be right back where we started with a housecleaning and a rebuild again. Mahomes was a good risk. I just hope we are putting him in a position to succeed. Last edited by Eleazar; 07-28-2017 at 07:24 AM.. |
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07-28-2017, 08:50 AM | #521 |
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Funny how for years everyone said they would be happy if we just finally won a playoff game after 20+ years. So we did. Now you guys have moved the bar. I truly believe some of you will never be satisfied. Now its "playoff-worthy opponents", then if we beat one of them it will be something else. I think if we win the SB you guys will do the same thing, (but the NFC was weak this year so it doesn't really count!).
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07-28-2017, 08:56 AM | #522 |
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07-28-2017, 09:06 AM | #523 |
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How can anyone conclude that Dorsey wasn't making the Chiefs better?
Dorsey DID make the Chiefs better, as did Andy. They have apparently hit a plateau. If you ask the Planet, 80% would say Smith is the reason. You ask Hali, he'd say a lack of big name leadership. You don't really see anyone saying it is a lack of talent on the roster. |
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07-28-2017, 09:10 AM | #524 |
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Clark said that he liked the vision that Veach had to make KC a championship team over the course of the next 2-3 years.
None of us can say for sure what that vision is, but I would say it clearly revolves around having Mahomes on his rookie deal and using that to their advantage in terms of the cap. |
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07-28-2017, 10:06 AM | #525 |
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