***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[loochy]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

Israel's been jabbing Pfizer since Dec. Seeing good results

https://www.nih.gov/israeli-study-of...accines-action

Wait, you mean Bill Gates didn't use it to kill everyone?

[MahomesMagic]

Nearly 80% hospitalized for COVID-19 were overweight or obese

About 78% of people who were hospitalized, placed on a ventilator or died from COVID-19 were overweight or obese, a new report from the CDC shows.

Why it matters: The findings show risk of severe COVID-19 illness rises sharply with elevated body mass index, especially for people younger than 65.

https://news.yahoo.com/nearly-80-hos...103021665.html


And this:

Study: In U.S., Lockdowns Added 2 Pounds per Month

March 23, 2021 -- Americans gained nearly 2 pounds per month under COVID-19 shelter-in-place orders in 2020, according to a new study published Monday in JAMA Network Open.

Those who kept the same lockdown habits could have gained 20 pounds during the past year, the study authors said.

“We know that weight gain is a public health problem in the U.S. already, so anything making it worse is definitely concerning, and shelter-in-place orders are so ubiquitous that the sheer number of people affected by this makes it extremely relevant,” Gregory Marcus, MD, the senior author and a cardiologist at the University of California, San Francisco, told The New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/22/h...ight-gain.html

[Monticore]

Pfizer says its COVID-19 vaccine protects younger teens

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...ehp&li=AAggNb9

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Nearly 80% hospitalized for COVID-19 were overweight or obese

About 78% of people who were hospitalized, placed on a ventilator or died from COVID-19 were overweight or obese, a new report from the CDC shows.

Why it matters: The findings show risk of severe COVID-19 illness rises sharply with elevated body mass index, especially for people younger than 65.

https://news.yahoo.com/nearly-80-hos...103021665.html


And this:

Study: In U.S., Lockdowns Added 2 Pounds per Month

March 23, 2021 -- Americans gained nearly 2 pounds per month under COVID-19 shelter-in-place orders in 2020, according to a new study published Monday in JAMA Network Open.

Those who kept the same lockdown habits could have gained 20 pounds during the past year, the study authors said.

“We know that weight gain is a public health problem in the U.S. already, so anything making it worse is definitely concerning, and shelter-in-place orders are so ubiquitous that the sheer number of people affected by this makes it extremely relevant,” Gregory Marcus, MD, the senior author and a cardiologist at the University of California, San Francisco, told The New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/22/h...ight-gain.html

That's fairly significant, considering that the the majority of the US population is overweight.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

That's fairly significant, considering that the the majority of the US population is overweight.

So your contention is that fat people are no worse off? I don't think a few lbs overweight moves the needle. But obese, and severely overweight people have weaker immune systems.

Ali Aminian, MD, Director of the Bariatric and Metabolic Institute at Cleveland Clinic, has studied 363 COVID-19 patients, and some, had a past history of weight loss surgery, while others did not have surgery and had a BMI of 40 or more at the time they tested positive for COVID-19.

Dr. Aminian found that in patients with severe obesity, 42% required hospital admission after contracting COVID-19. However, in group of patients who had bariatric surgery before, only 18% required hospital admission after COVID-19.
https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021...ms-study-says/

I can tell you right now that the general population does not have 42% requiring hospitalization after Covid.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

So your contention is that fat people are no worse off? I don't think a few lbs overweight moves the needle. But obese, and severely overweight people have weaker immune systems.

Ali Aminian, MD, Director of the Bariatric and Metabolic Institute at Cleveland Clinic, has studied 363 COVID-19 patients, and some, had a past history of weight loss surgery, while others did not have surgery and had a BMI of 40 or more at the time they tested positive for COVID-19.

Dr. Aminian found that in patients with severe obesity, 42% required hospital admission after contracting COVID-19. However, in group of patients who had bariatric surgery before, only 18% required hospital admission after COVID-19.
https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021...ms-study-says/

I can tell you right now that the general population does not have 42% requiring hospitalization after Covid.

No - all i'm saying is: if 2/3 of the US population is statistically considered overweight, then it's no surprise that 80% of COVID-19 patients are overweight.

[DaFace]

Wouldn't have guessed I'd be on the list in early April, but here we are. Scheduled for J&J next Friday. I'm kind of surprised how easy it was to get an appointment.

[suzzer99]

I got my second Pfizer shot last week because I work in "education and childcare". IE - I write programs to squeeze more money out of university donors.

In one week I can start licking handrails.

[KC Dan]

Got my first Moderna today. No pain but I am bit hammered and there is a horn growing out of my head.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by KC Dan

Got my first Moderna today. No pain but I am bit hammered and there is a horn growing out of my head.

That's just your new 5G antenna. Don't worry about it.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by KC Dan

Got my first Moderna today. No pain but I am bit hammered and there is a horn growing out of my head.

Sounds like you've already started you're conversion to being Russian.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Indian Chief

If only we could get people to stop referring to him even after he's been banned.

Ban him again

[jdubya]

Second Moderna dose 24 hours ago and I feel fine. Mild arm soreness, a few aches and pains but not sure if that is new or normal stuff lol. My wife was in bed for a day and a half after her second Moderna shot but normal now.

[BKNets88Julia]

I got both Moderna Shots here in NJ by March 8th, only problems I had were sore arm after.

As someone who is high risk. I have Lupus I was worried, but no other reaction for me.

Mom and my rheumtologist had a rash.

They they my autoimmune was woken up after having the flu in 2014

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BKNets88Julia

I got both Moderna Shots here in NJ by March 8th, only problems I had were sore arm after.

As someone who is high risk. I have Lupus I was worried, but no other reaction for me.

Mom and my rheumtologist had a rash.

They they my autoimmune was woken up after having the flu in 2014

Is this some kind of weird bot?