***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

It's clear that you're trying to have some self-fun, but this isn't the time. Again, you're being a dick.

sorry for passing along info

i know you jump at the chance to ride your high horse

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

i'm hoping this gets really bad so i can just stay in and eat basmati rice drenched in butter and curry powder

that's good eatin'

Rice and cream of mushroom is my savory delight.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Heh, already looked into that. I buy a few rolls of those really cheap PTs every winter in preparation for the upcoming fpring fishing trips I usually take, and instead of bringing rolls of TP and rolls of PT, it's just more convenient to bring a roll of PT and cut the thing in half; one roll for PT, and one for your butt.

I looked to be sure, but yeah, I've got 5 rolls of cheap PT in the garage. Maybe I'll sell them on Ebay for $100/each . . .

wont paper towels clog up the pipes?

[DaFace]

Yes.

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

sorry for passing along info

i know you jump at the chance to ride your high horse

A horse named Fraud?

[Titty Meat]

Damn

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by notorious

You guys in the city take care of yourselves.

We are good to go out here in the middle of nowhere.

I’d rather die in a breakdown of society riot than live in the middle of nowhere.

[007]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I don't see society breaking down over this. But if it does, the family has land only 70 miles away in rural Iowa.

Which room is mine

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Oh ****, eDave is infected.

heh?

[BigRedChief]

My wife teaches 2nd grade in one of the biggest school districts in the state. They are on spring break. Starting next week they are doing online learning using Microsoft teams. Grades Kindergarten through High School. Giving every student computers and free Wi-Fi at home. They have obviously made the decision to not go back into the physical classrooms this year.

Parents supposed to stay home with these young kids? Give up work?

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Fish

Except it didn't work. It's not the same roll.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Does the recipe come with a Plumber?

In most of Mexico and Central America the pipes are too narrow for even TP. They throw it in a covered wastebin. It seems gross at first but it rarely smells. You fold it over before throwing it away out of courtesy.

[petegz28]

Olathe just closed school until April 5th

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

wont paper towels clog up the pipes?

Depends.

The generic crappy single-ply PTs I'm talking about are about half the thickness of your Brawny PTs (insert name brand high quality PT here). You can basically see thru them if you hold them up in front of direct sunlight. Now, usually these get used while fishing/hunting/camping, so at best I'm using them in vault-style toilets, not running plumbing.

But I have used them before in the house experimentally zs well as at gas stations that didn't have TP in the stall. And they flushed just fine. Of course, I use them sparingly; I'm not folding things over four and five times for one wipe. I'm taking about 6-8 inches of paper, folding once. Repeat. Done. Never had any problems doing it that way in indoor plumbing. YMMV of course.