***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Rain Man]

We're over 10 percent of the 16+ population in Colorado getting their first shot or more: 485,000 out of approximately 4.6 million. It's probably still to early to start seeing notable impacts on spread, but once we get to 20 or 30 percent I bet we start seeing a real impact.

[O.city]

3 hours post 2nd jab. No sore arm this time. No side effects to speak of yet. May take some Tylenol and go to bed

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

Person number 5 that i know died to covid. 2nd family member!

I'm really sorry :-(

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

3 hours post 2nd jab. No sore arm this time. No side effects to speak of yet. May take some Tylenol and go to bed

Sounds like what I experienced

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

3 hours post 2nd jab. No sore arm this time. No side effects to speak of yet. May take some Tylenol and go to bed

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Sounds like what I experienced

I played baseball in high school. I once got drilled in the upper arm with a fastball by this tall lanky left hander that went on to play D1 ball for some school I'd never heard of in Wisconsin.

I'd say the pain is very comparable to that. I'm not sure how much of a difference it'll make, but I'm going to avoid any acetaminophen/ibuprofen unless it becomes unbearable or I spike a fever.

[farmerchief]

I’m going to unhook my horse from the plow, need to ride him to town by 11:45 AM, to get my first shot!

[TLO]

Originally Posted by farmerchief

I’m going to unhook my horse from the plow, need to ride him to town by 11:45 AM, to get my first shot!

Yee haw!

[Chiefnj2]

If you look up the VAERS data there is a lot of interesting notes about the vaccine and adverse reactions.

“Acute appendicitis, onset morning of 1/1/2021 (Reporting this because Pfizer covid vaccine had 3-4x higher risk of appendicitis, although data not reported for Moderna covid vaccine)“

[Indian Chief]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

We're over 10 percent of the 16+ population in Colorado getting their first shot or more: 485,000 out of approximately 4.6 million. It's probably still to early to start seeing notable impacts on spread, but once we get to 20 or 30 percent I bet we start seeing a real impact.

I think it's going to be largely influenced by the % of the population that already has COVID-19 antibodies, through contracting the virus previously. So in a place like NYC, or even NJ where I am, you'll see herd immunity much sooner than an area that has been less affected.

[TLO]

Went to bed around 9:30. Woke up at 1 with some all over aches and pain. No fever. Decided to go ahead and take a couple Tylenol even though I'm not running a fever.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

If you look up the VAERS data there is a lot of interesting notes about the vaccine and adverse reactions.

“Acute appendicitis, onset morning of 1/1/2021 (Reporting this because Pfizer covid vaccine had 3-4x higher risk of appendicitis, although data not reported for Moderna covid vaccine)“

How could you prove the vaccine caused the appendicitis though? Appendicitis is common enough that it shouldn't really be a surprise that out of the millions of people that have gotten the vaccine that some people have developed appendicitis. Or am I incorrect?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

Went to bed around 9:30. Woke up at 1 with some all over aches and pain. No fever. Decided to go ahead and take a couple Tylenol even though I'm not running a fever.

Still feeling the aches and pains, but they don't seem as bad as last night. My arm doesn't hurt as bad either. 7 hours or so out from my dose of Tylenol. Might try and get a little more sleep and then see how I feel.

[O.city]

bout 14 hours post 2nd jab.

Slight sore arm. Nothing else

[Marcellus]

Well the good news is the 7 day rolling average is still dropping steady, on par with Nov 12th numbers.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TLO

How could you prove the vaccine caused the appendicitis though? Appendicitis is common enough that it shouldn't really be a surprise that out of the millions of people that have gotten the vaccine that some people have developed appendicitis. Or am I incorrect?

The VAERS system is really just a place to report severe issues after getting a vaccine, so we shouldn't really try to read much into it.

Yes, normal people get appendicitis. Whether the incidence rate is higher among people who got the vaccine or not would need to be studied. (That said, it seems unlikely that there would be a link, but you never know.)