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Old 09-15-2019, 02:33 PM  
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Frank Clark ****ing sucks
Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.
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Old 12-07-2021, 07:58 PM   #5086
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Some of the jumps he gets off the line are insane. I'm glad he's back to being a stud.
Frank Clark? or Michael Irvin snortin' coke?
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Old 12-07-2021, 08:36 PM   #5087
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Not since Melvim Ingram signed and Chris Jones back inside.

This is working.
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Old 12-13-2021, 11:45 AM   #5088
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Frank should have had 2.5 sacks yesterday. I think he's about to explode. I could see him getting 4-5 sacks over the last four games.
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Old 12-13-2021, 11:49 AM   #5089
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Clark looks like he is shot out of a cannon around the edge lately. Incredible timing on the snap count with real burst.
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Old 12-13-2021, 11:52 AM   #5090
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If he plays like this for the rest of the season and postseason and we win the SB, it’s going to be really hard to argue that the trade wasn’t worth it in the end.
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Old 12-13-2021, 11:53 AM   #5091
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Frank should have had 2.5 sacks yesterday. I think he's about to explode. I could see him getting 4-5 sacks over the last four games.
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If he plays like this for the rest of the season and postseason and we win the SB, it’s going to be really hard to argue that the trade wasn’t worth it in the end.
Chiefs won the superbowl. Trade is already worth it.
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Chiefs won the superbowl. Trade is already worth it.
Oh I agree, I meant for the people that still argue that it wasn’t.
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Old 12-13-2021, 12:22 PM   #5094
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Total pressure this season.

Chris Jones: 28

Frank Clark: 22
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Old 12-13-2021, 12:24 PM   #5095
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Alright guys.

It might be time to revisit what I think all of us had as the slam-dunk move of this coming offseason, which is releasing Frank Clark.

I'm still in favor of it at this point, but it's now like 55/45 instead of the 100/0 it was after September.

Anybody think we should explore extending him to lower his 2022 cap hit, rather than straight up releasing him?

I think it's at least worth a conversation.
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Old 12-13-2021, 12:25 PM   #5096
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I doubt there is much of a market for him, so if he stays on a very cheap deal, yes.

But I think we can do better with a younger player.
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Old 12-13-2021, 12:35 PM   #5097
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I doubt there is much of a market for him, so if he stays on a very cheap deal, yes.

But I think we can do better with a younger player.
I would, too, eventually. Which is why we should draft one, and draft one high. I do these silly mock offseason exercises in the Draft forum all the time, and I've cut Clark every time. His cap hit is ridonkulous, even though he's kind of justifying it now.

He's not going to leave the money he's owed on the table, though. There's no way we "Okafor" him.

But maybe we can extend him for, like, $16m/year for X years. Lower the cap hit in 2022, which we'll need to do all kinds of stuff.

I think I'm still against the idea, but it's something worth exploring right now.
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Alright guys.

It might be time to revisit what I think all of us had as the slam-dunk move of this coming offseason, which is releasing Frank Clark.

I'm still in favor of it at this point, but it's now like 55/45 instead of the 100/0 it was after September.

Anybody think we should explore extending him to lower his 2022 cap hit, rather than straight up releasing him?

I think it's at least worth a conversation.
We have all the leverage. Tell him he needs to take a significant cap drop or he’s cut. This can probably happen via some kind of conversion of salary to bonus for 2022.

Ideally I’d like to keep Frank and Melvin and add a young DE early in the draft
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We have all the leverage. Tell him he needs to take a significant cap drop or he’s cut. This can probably happen via some kind of conversion of salary to bonus for 2022.

Ideally I’d like to keep Frank and Melvin and add a young DE early in the draft
The thought of this as a possibility gives me wood.
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Old 12-13-2021, 12:43 PM   #5100
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We have all the leverage. Tell him he needs to take a significant cap drop or he’s cut. This can probably happen via some kind of conversion of salary to bonus for 2022.

Ideally I’d like to keep Frank and Melvin and add a young DE early in the draft
We have most of the leverage, but not all of it.

1. Clark is playing amazing right now. He's currently the guy we traded for in 2019. The possibility of losing that in 2022 gives him leverage.
2. Aside from Clark, we do not (yet?) have Ingram re-signed, which means our 2022 DE depth chart is Danna and Kaindoh, and that's it.
3. If we cut him, he can probably find a home in the mid- to upper-teens. It's not like we cut him and he's Clowney 2.0, homeless and undesired.

These things make Clark very valuable for us. So he does have some leverage.

Cutting him after the September he had would have been painless.

Cutting him at this point, should he play like this for the rest of the season, is going to hurt.

Maybe there's an extension with a low-2022 cap hit that's agreeable to both parties.
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