***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by loochy

Exactly...the same as its always been. Government is slow and inefficient with tons of bureaucracy and red tape. Want it done faster? Let a private company handle it.

CDC data shows that private companies are “handling it” but, they are the slow part here.

The government did its part delivering the vaccine into the hands of private companies to administer.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by loochy

Exactly...the same as its always been. Government is slow and inefficient with tons of bureaucracy and red tape. Want it done faster? Let a private company handle it.

Political post. Reported.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Donger

Political post. Reported.

For being wrong?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

CDC data shows that private companies are “handling it” but, they are the slow part here.

The government did its part delivering the vaccine into the hands of private companies to administer.

So which company do you have a problem with?

Also, I'm glad you are happy with the way that our government is handling this.

[displacedinMN]

Basketball and hockey players must compete while wearing face coverings as high school winter sports can begin games as soon as Jan. 14.

On Monday, the Minnesota Department of Health released updated guidelines for winter sports amid the coronavirus pandemic after previously permitting practices to begin Jan. 4.

Athletes will be required to wear face coverings when practices begin Jan. 4. In some cases, athletes in cheerleading, gymnastics, swimming and diving and wrestling will be allowed to temporarily remove their masks while performing certain tasks.

[RedRaider56]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

CDC data shows that private companies are “handling it” but, they are the slow part here.

The government did its part delivering the vaccine into the hands of private companies to administer.

I heard on the news yesterday that some of those private companies decided to take the Christmas weekend off instead of administering the vaccine.
Have no idea on how true that is or what percentage but it was reported.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by loochy

So which company do you have a problem with?

Also, I'm glad you are happy with the way that our government is handling this.

my opinion on how the government has handled the response to Covid should be clear as a bell even to the casual occasional visitor to this thread.

JFC, active US military troops and leadership are handling the logistics and delivery of the vaccine to civilian and state control. Not the government.

But, after they deliver the vaccine, it’s up to state, civilians to distribute within their state or area and put it in our arms.

Just because you don’t see the military in warehouses with pallets of vaccines going out from the cameras, doesn’t mean they are not there managing the physical rollout of the vaccine.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

my opinion on how the government has handled the response to Covid should be clear as a bell even to the casual occasional visitor to this thread.

JFC, active US military troops and leadership are handling the logistics and delivery of the vaccine to civilian and state control. Not the government.

But, after they deliver the vaccine, it’s up to state, civilians to distribute within their state or area and put it in our arms.

Just because you don’t see the military in warehouses with pallets of vaccines going out from the cameras, doesn’t mean they are not there managing the physical rollout of the vaccine.

The State is still a level of government.....

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The State is still a level of government.....

GI= Government Issue.

[TLO]

Just got word that our company is placing an order for the vaccine today through our local health department.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Dude, how old are you? It's always like this. Shit doesn't get done the way it should because the people in charge are not impacted.

That being said you can't just go out and hire tons of people on a wimb.

Someone who works on super duper top secret IT stuff for the government should easily understand this concept.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

CDC numbers:

Doses delivered: 11,445,171
Doses Administered: 2,127,143

9 million+ doses laying around gathering dust in a medical administrative facility somewhere after taking delivery from the government instead of going into arms.

That is not good but I would like to see a breakdown between the Pfizer vaccine and Moderna. The Pfizer vaccine has a short shelf life in dry ice and only rich hospitals can afford the freezers plus they are super hard to come by right now anyway.

We got our shipment and used it all in 3-4 days since we don't have one of those freezers.

BTW I am at 11 days out from my first dose so I should be around 50% safe

[O.city]

It definitely could go faster, but after reading some things on it, I think they're doing it smart.

[displacedinMN]

Wife's company will have office people home until June.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

It definitely could go faster, but after reading some things on it, I think they're doing it smart.

I think some of it is because people are nervous and want to wait or just don't want the vaccine period. We only had about 50% acceptance for our employees.