***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Obesity
isn't
contagious

[BigRedChief]

Everybody is getting this card to document first & second vaccination. Take a pic of it to show getting into events. I have my DOB covered. pic.twitter.com/J3jPptMIn1

— WearTheDamnMask (@Jody537LN) December 18, 2020

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Donger

Obesity
isn't
contagious

So unlike age it sounds like no excuse to have that particular condition that puts you at high risk to be hospitalized for Covid.

[O.city]

There’s a lot of evidence that a single vaccine does gives strong immune response and protection. Wonder if there are any trials checking that out? Would help with limited supply

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Everybody is getting this card to document first & second vaccination. Take a pic of it to show getting into events. I have my DOB covered. pic.twitter.com/J3jPptMIn1

— WearTheDamnMask (@Jody537LN) December 18, 2020

Papers please!

I'm sure there would never be any forgery or photoshopping....

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So unlike age it sounds like no excuse to have that particular condition that puts you at high risk to be hospitalized for Covid.

When I was a kid my mom would always tell me to stop eating or else a worldwide pandemic would kill me in 40 years instead of obesity killing me in 70.

Glad I listened. No excuse for anyone who didn't though.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by O.city

There’s a lot of evidence that a single vaccine does gives strong immune response and protection. Wonder if there are any trials checking that out? Would help with limited supply

Pfizer is supposedly 52% after 3 weeks - which is about as effective as a flu shot in a year they miss a lot of the strains.

[suzzer99]

I spoke to the authors of two studies that Laura Ingraham has cited to support mask denialism. Both authors told me they reject her portrayal of their work & that they support people in public wearing masks. "It's the right thing to do," one of them said. https://t.co/k62osaRSXI

— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) December 19, 2020

About that mask denialism.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by stevieray

I'm not minimizing anything, and frankly, I'm quite tired of you speaking for me regarding this situation. You're along for the ride just like the rest of us.

Since you're so hell bent on "shaming" me for a different opinion or stance, and telling me how much I don't care.... I'll leave you with this little nugget to ponder.

You're a smart guy, and used to be a mod. You enforced bans for people using slurs against black and gays, yet have turned a blind eye to posters calling each other reeruns forever and a day, while it's pretty well know there are parents here who deal with those less than ideal life situations on a daily basis.

It's insensitive and reeks of hypocrisy.

Dude. I'm married to a special education teacher and the son of another. If you think I approve of that one, you have no idea who I even am.

I have no idea what it has to do with you insisting that covid is the flu though.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Pfizer is supposedly 52% after 3 weeks - which is about as effective as a flu shot in a year they miss a lot of the strains.

I'm not coming out of the bunker for 52 percent. I want to be zombie-proof.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Dude. I'm married to a special education teacher and the son of another. If you think I approve of that one, you have no idea who I even am.

I have no idea what it has to do with you insisting that covid is the flu though.

And I will observe that you've never called me the R word at work. At least not in front of me.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Dude. I'm married to a special education teacher and the son of another. If you think I approve of that one, you have no idea who I even am.

I have no idea what it has to do with you insisting that covid is the flu though.

I never said you approved(dishonest) I said you sat on the sidelines and did nothing.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I spoke to the authors of two studies that Laura Ingraham has cited to support mask denialism. Both authors told me they reject her portrayal of their work & that they support people in public wearing masks. "It's the right thing to do," one of them said. https://t.co/k62osaRSXI

— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) December 19, 2020

About that mask denialism.

Are we doing politics now?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

When I was a kid my mom would always tell me to stop eating or else a worldwide pandemic would kill me in 40 years instead of obesity killing me in 70.

Glad I listened. No excuse for anyone who didn't though.

I understand. Personal responsibility isn't for everyone

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

The collective health of people living in the US is terrible which probably contributes a lot to the numbers. I'm putting out the facts and getting a few "well, I know a guy" responses.

40% of the country is obese, but "WEAR YOUR DAMN MASK FOR MY HEALTH!"

I agree we have a lot of unhealthy people including me at times. Obesity, smoking, and lots of drug and alcohol abuse are big contributors to our unhealthiness.

When it comes to obesity people who live in rural areas have a higher rate of being obese.