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Old 02-26-2020, 10:28 PM  
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***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

A couple of reminders...

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Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
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People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Old 12-17-2020, 08:35 AM   #49711
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Hospitalizations follow increases in positive cases and deaths follow hospitalizations.

This has been the trend all along.
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:38 AM   #49712
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Hospitalizations follow increases in positive cases and deaths follow hospitalizations.

This has been the trend all along.
I don't trust any of the numbers at this point.

The "cases".

The hospitalizations.

The deaths.

All of them linked to the PCR Test run to 40+ cycles.
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:40 AM   #49713
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I don't trust any of the numbers at this point.

The "cases".

The hospitalizations.

The deaths.

All of them linked to the PCR Test run to 40+ cycles.
Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:42 AM   #49714
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Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
It does nothing of the sort. But I think we need to get back to fundamentals. In order to have a disease..such as Covid, you need to have symptoms.

This was basic medical thinking prior to this year.
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:43 AM   #49715
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Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
He's not wrong though
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:45 AM   #49716
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It does nothing of the sort. But I think we need to get back to fundamentals. In order to have a disease..such as Covid, you need to have symptoms.

This was basic medical thinking prior to this year.
So you think those hospitalized don't have symptoms? I'm sure there are a few hospitalized for other things that end up testing positive, no clue on the number there. Thats gonna happen.

But based on my conversations with the ER docs I know here pretty well, thats not been the case for the vast majority of hospitalizations due to Covid. It's pretty obvious.
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:47 AM   #49717
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So you think those hospitalized don't have symptoms? I'm sure there are a few hospitalized for other things that end up testing positive, no clue on the number there. Thats gonna happen.

But based on my conversations with the ER docs I know here pretty well, thats not been the case for the vast majority of hospitalizations due to Covid. It's pretty obvious.
Miami reported recently that more than 50% of their "Covid" patients came in for something else..then popped +on a PCR test.

I have seen other cities reporting more than 30% of their patients do not have Covid symptoms.

In NY I ask our county executive how many of the Covid hospital patients have Covid symptoms and there is silence.
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:47 AM   #49718
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I don't trust any of the numbers at this point.

The "cases".

The hospitalizations.

The deaths.

All of them linked to the PCR Test run to 40+ cycles.
Read what you said..... human beings are in a hospital because of a test. No symptoms, they just got a positive test and went directly to the hospital huh?


People are dead because they had a PCR test done?
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:49 AM   #49719
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Miami reported recently that more than 50% of their "Covid" patients came in for something else..then popped +on a PCR test.

I have seen other cities reporting more than 30% of their patients do not have Covid symptoms.

In NY I ask our county executive how many of the Covid hospital patients have Covid symptoms and there is silence.
ahhh so your a conspiracy guy. Believe what you want. Free country. Thanks for the information.
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:54 AM   #49720
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Read what you said..... human beings are in a hospital because of a test. No symptoms, they just got a positive test and went directly to the hospital huh?


People are dead because they had a PCR test done?
No. That's not what I said.

The question is how many Covid patients actually have Covid? The reason is that people coming for an ankle surgery have to get the PCR test. Once they do and show virus fragments, even if they are not sick, they now are a Covid "patient".
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:55 AM   #49721
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ahhh so your a conspiracy guy. Believe what you want. Free country. Thanks for the information.
Conspiracy guy?

You sound moronic. You're just babbling instead of processing information.
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:55 AM   #49722
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No. That's not what I said.

The question is how many Covid patients actually have Covid? The reason is that people coming for an ankle surgery have to get the PCR test. Once they do and show virus fragments, even if they are not sick, they now are a Covid "patient".
They're not hospitalized if they come in for an elective ankle surgery and throw a positive for Covid.
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:56 AM   #49723
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Miami reported recently that more than 50% of their "Covid" patients came in for something else..then popped +on a PCR test.

I have seen other cities reporting more than 30% of their patients do not have Covid symptoms.

In NY I ask our county executive how many of the Covid hospital patients have Covid symptoms and there is silence.
So you are saying half the people hospitalized as COvid patients, aren't actually hospitalized for Covid symptoms?
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:56 AM   #49724
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They're not hospitalized if they come in for an elective ankle surgery and throw a positive for Covid.
What do you mean not hospitalized? They are in the hospital and they are counted as Covid if they test +. Have seen numerous confirmations of this.

The only question is % total in each hospital.
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:57 AM   #49725
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So you are saying half the people hospitalized as COvid patients, aren't actually hospitalized for Covid symptoms?
In Miami the answer to your question is yes. More than 50%.
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