***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Our company is now doing a survey to see how many local employees would be interested in the vaccine. We're at about 3 yes vs 30 no so far. We have about 60 people total at our local branch.

If we don't end up getting the vaccine because of a bunch of ****ing ant-vaxxer bullshit from our staff I'm going to a different company.

[007]

Just got my email from my organization to sign up for the vaccine later this week. Not sure I'm going to jump in on it this early.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by 007

Just got my email from my organization to sign up for the vaccine later this week. Not sure I'm going to jump in on it this early.

What are your hesitations?

[007]

Originally Posted by TLO

What are your hesitations?

I'm not particularly keen on being in the first or second round. I prefer to see how people around me respond to it first.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by 007

I'm not particularly keen on being in the first or second round. I prefer to see how people around me respond to it first.

There's glory in going first. You will be the chiefsplanet version of Ham the chimpanzee.

[007]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

There's glory in going first. You will be the chiefsplanet version of Ham the chimpanzee.

This entire board is full of chimpanzees

[TLO]

Originally Posted by 007

I'm not particularly keen on being in the first or second round. I prefer to see how people around me respond to it first.

I can understand that position.

If you have any specific questions on the vaccine itself,(including but not limited to: safety, efficacy, side effects, etc), there are a lot of people in this thread that I'm sure would be happy to give you a run down of the data.

Or you may be well versed in that stuff already and would still like to wait a bit.

[jdubya]

My neighbor is an ER doctor and is hesitant to be the first in line. He knows he should do it and his wife is making him do it but he isnt thrilled about it lol.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

It may just depend on people's work and life situations, but I'd probably prefer to wait a little longer and get the 95% version as long as it's not too long. I have a great shelter-in-place lifestyle.

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Add Another reason why I wanted Moderna vaccine

I want the 95% vaccine over the 70% vaccine. I’d assume lots of others feel the same way but probably won’t have a choice until summer if you want to pick a specific vaccine.

[007]

Originally Posted by jdubya

My neighbor is an ER doctor and is hesitant to be the first in line. He knows he should do it and his wife is making him do it but he isnt thrilled about it lol.

Most of the professionals I work with are struggling with the decision as well.

[BigRedChief]

During newser late this afternoon, @GovRonDeSantis said next two weeks of Pfizer vaccines slated for Florida have been put on hold, totaling about 450k doses.
“We don’t know whether we will get any or not. And we’re just going to have to wait,” DeSantis said. @BN9 #bn9covid19

— Cait McVey (@CaitMcVey) December 15, 2020

“It’s a production issue with Pfizer. It has nothing to do with the federal government or nothing to do specifically with Florida. This is just what’s happening nationwide,” added the Governor. #bn9covid19 @BN9

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

During newser late this afternoon, @GovRonDeSantis said next two weeks of Pfizer vaccines slated for Florida have been put on hold, totaling about 450k doses.
“We don’t know whether we will get any or not. And we’re just going to have to wait,” DeSantis said. @BN9 #bn9covid19

— Cait McVey (@CaitMcVey) December 15, 2020

“It’s a production issue with Pfizer. It has nothing to do with the federal government or nothing to do specifically with Florida. This is just what’s happening nationwide,” added the Governor. #bn9covid19 @BN9

Maybe they heard that he's going to halve the doses and they don't want him screwing everything up.

[JakeF]

https://www.kron4.com/news/californi...avirus-update/

Newsom: 5,000 more body bags purchased as CA COVID deaths spike
CALIFORNIA

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (KRON/AP) – California is seeing a spike in COVID-19 deaths as the state activates its mass fatality program.

This comes as state leaders work to boost staffing at hospitals and vaccinate critical workers.

“This is a deadly disease. A deadly pandemic and we’re in the middle of it,” Governor Newsom said.

Governor Gavin Newsom giving a grim update to California’s COVID-19 situation Tuesday.

The state is averaging more than 160 deaths per day over the last week prompting the state to activate its coroner mutual aid and mass fatality program.

“We just had to order 5,000 additional body bags they just purchased for the state, and we just distribute them to Los Angeles, San Diego and Inyo’s counties. That should be sobering,” Newsom said.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Maybe they heard that he's going to halve the doses and they don't want him screwing everything up.

yeah that’s scuttlebug around here. But, he’s best buds with the President so I’m sure he’s already called to get special treatment and promised to keep his mouth shut going forward.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by JakeF

https://www.kron4.com/news/californi...avirus-update/

Newsom: 5,000 more body bags purchased as CA COVID deaths spike
CALIFORNIA

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (KRON/AP) – California is seeing a spike in COVID-19 deaths as the state activates its mass fatality program.

This comes as state leaders work to boost staffing at hospitals and vaccinate critical workers.

“This is a deadly disease. A deadly pandemic and we’re in the middle of it,” Governor Newsom said.

Governor Gavin Newsom giving a grim update to California’s COVID-19 situation Tuesday.

The state is averaging more than 160 deaths per day over the last week prompting the state to activate its coroner mutual aid and mass fatality program.

“We just had to order 5,000 additional body bags they just purchased for the state, and we just distribute them to Los Angeles, San Diego and Inyo’s counties. That should be sobering,” Newsom said.

And a few days ago he was caught eating dinner at a fundraiser indoors with a group of physicians.......with no masks.........lol. **** you King Gavin you POS