***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Donger

What makes you claim that?

You're not that stupid. Jfc

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Common ****ing sense. The same reason the weekends are low and Tuesday and Wednesday is generally the highest days every week.

Or do you think people just die on Tuesday and Wednesday?


Let's put it this way...it's the SAME ****ing reason YOU always threw out about why weekend numbers were lower.

Have your last word and

Well, it's Thursday. Thanksgiving was a week ago. Today's numbers are comparable.

Do you think they'll go down significantly soon? If what we are seeing is backlog, they must.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

You're not that stupid. Jfc

He's onto something....up until this point we thought deaths always peaked on Tuesday and Wednesday every week because you had the backlog from the weekend catching up to the reporting but over the Thanksgiving week everything was real time!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

Well, it's Thursday. Thanksgiving was a week ago. Today's numbers are comparable.

Do you think they'll go down significantly soon? If what we are seeing is backlog, they must.

Yeah because people weren't taking off last week specifically Wednesday - Friday but you got it all figured out.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

You're not that stupid. Jfc

I change my reply, yes, he is.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah because people weren't taking off last week specifically Wednesday - Friday but you got it all figured out.

Yes, I didn't think you'd answer that. How many days do you think it'll take to clear the Thanksgiving holiday backlog, pete?

[dirk digler]

Glad we waited

WSJ: Pfizer now expects to ship half the doses it had originally planned, from 100 million doses down to 50 million, after finding raw materials in early production didn’t meet its standards.https://t.co/82Malmr24u

— Michael Del Moro (@MikeDelMoro) December 3, 2020

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Do you know what some of the most recognizable disasters in the 20th century (Challenger, Chernobyl) all have in common? People rushing to meet deadlines and ignoring data for the sake of expediency. Do you know why the airline and nuclear industries are so safe? Because they have a series of redundant backups to check and recheck the material. It doesn't matter if it's been okay 99 times in a row, you don't skip the 100th time just because you want to get it done sooner.

QFT


Those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes, I didn't think you'd answer that. How many days do you think it'll take to clear the Thanksgiving holiday backlog, pete?

Gee, Donger, why don't you tell us all how long it will take since you are the only one who knows......

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Glad we waited

WSJ: Pfizer now expects to ship half the doses it had originally planned, from 100 million doses down to 50 million, after finding raw materials in early production didn’t meet its standards.https://t.co/82Malmr24u

— Michael Del Moro (@MikeDelMoro) December 3, 2020

Yeah that had nothing to do with the FDA approving this but you go with it if you think it was....
Notice Pfizer found this and not the FDA in all of their meticulous research

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Gee, Donger, why don't you tell us all how long it will take since you are the only one who knows......

I'm not the one claiming that the increases in deaths is due to backlog, pete. You are.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

QFT


Those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it.

Cherry pick a few events and cast the blanket....not shocking you would go with that.

Like I said, I guess the UK just hates people. Never mind that at any other time people just like you and others say we need to be more like them cause they care more about people that we do.....

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

I'm not the one claiming that the increases in deaths is mostly due to backlog, pete. You are.

You're claiming they aren't so tell us how it really works, Donger....

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by LTL

I'm in Kansas and as healthcare worker who deals with covid pts directly it says i was 4th in line.

Who in the hell is in front of you?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You're claiming they aren't so tell us how it really works, Donger....

I see no reason why any backlog would not have been taken into account after four days since Sunday. If the number keeps rising, what's your "explanation" going to be next, pete?