***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

What were your thoughts on testing early in the pandemic and how the US didn't ramp it up quickly?

Who says they didn't?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

They're placing me in the bottom 10 percent. That's humbling. I think the only people behind me are people on death row in solitary confinement. Even the people on death row in the general population cell blocks are ahead of me.

That's kind of silly. No way should I be behind children. I'm old and I produce tax revenue.

Wait, my governor is actually quoted in the article and has my back.

The idea that prisoners could get vaccinated before average Americans is already facing pushback. “There’s no way it’s going to go to prisoners before it goes to people who haven’t committed any crime,” Gov. Jared Polis of Colorado said this week.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by TLO

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-timeline.html

Where do you fall in line?

Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind 268.7 million people across the United States.

When it comes to Illinois, we think you’re behind 10.5 million others who are at higher risk in your state.

And in Cook County, you’re behind 4.2 million others.

If the line in Illinois was represented by about 100 people, this is where you’d be standing:

***which is 6th from the end***

[TLO]

Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind very few people across the United States.

When it comes to Missouri, we think you’re behind very few others who are at higher risk in your state.

And in Buchanan County, you’re behind very few others.

If the line in Missouri was represented by about 100 people, this is where you’d be standing:

*first*

(This is based on being a healthcare worker)

[TLO]

So those of you looking for guinea pigs to see how the vaccine goes, I'll be sure to give you a detailed play by play of any side effects/issues.

Just wait till this baby gives me a 16 inch pecker and allows me to bench 500lbs. You skeptics will be lining up for a shot!

[htismaqe]

I guess I don't have to worry about being a guinea pig. I'm not sure there's even 30K people in my county.

Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind 268.7 million people across the United States.

When it comes to Iowa, we think you’re behind 2.7 million others who are at higher risk in your state.

And in Jasper County, you’re behind 30,200 others.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TLO

So those of you looking for guinea pigs to see how the vaccine goes, I'll be sure to give you a detailed play by play of any side effects/issues.

Just wait till this baby gives me a 16 inch pecker and allows me to bench 500lbs. You skeptics will be lining up for a shot!

I"m not sure I'm willing to make that sacrifice.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by TLO

So those of you looking for guinea pigs to see how the vaccine goes, I'll be sure to give you a detailed play by play of any side effects/issues.

Just wait till this baby gives me a 16 inch pecker and allows me to bench 500lbs. You skeptics will be lining up for a shot!

We will be closely monitoring you while we wait.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by TLO

Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind very few people across the United States.

When it comes to Missouri, we think you’re behind very few others who are at higher risk in your state.

And in Buchanan County, you’re behind very few others.

If the line in Missouri was represented by about 100 people, this is where you’d be standing:

*first*

(This is based on being a healthcare worker)

I'm a healthcare worker with preexisting conditions and you jumped me in line, you bastard.

Note that changing me from having pre-existing conditions to not did not affect my place in line. Increasing my age to 80 bumped me from 5 to 4. Changing to Buchanan County moved me to 4th.

Also, this tool is not terribly specific. Healthcare workers are not always patient-facing HCW, who will be prioritized first in MO. Five metro areas will get initial access in MO, and they are not rural.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm a healthcare worker with preexisting conditions and you jumped me in line, you bastard.

Note that changing me from having pre-existing conditions to not did not affect my place in line. Increasing my age to 80 bumped me from 5 to 4. Changing to Buchanan County moved me to 4th.

Also, this tool is not terribly specific. Healthcare workers are not always patient-facing HCW, who will be prioritized first in MO. Five metro areas will get initial access in MO, and they are not rural.

I'm in line behind people who don't use their turn signals and people who think Two Broke Girls is funny.

[mr. tegu]

I’m third from the end. The two behind me in line are cats, presumably our two cats.

[ChiliConCarnage]

So if you're not old and don't have covid related health risks you get 268.7 million. If you flip the covid related health risk to yes, you shoot up to 23 millionth in line.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind 268.7 million people across the United States.

When it comes to Illinois, we think you’re behind 10.5 million others who are at higher risk in your state.

And in Cook County, you’re behind 4.2 million others.

If the line in Illinois was represented by about 100 people, this is where you’d be standing:

***which is 6th from the end***

Will you send me your beer stash before you die?

Thanks.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I’m third from the end. The two behind me in line are cats, presumably our two cats.

There's two cats in front of me in line.

[Marcellus]

Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind 126.5 million people across the United States.

When it comes to Missouri, we think you’re behind 2.6 million others who are at higher risk in your state.

And in Newton County, you’re behind 24,400 others.

If the line in Missouri was represented by about 100 people, this is where you’d be standing:

Oh well.