***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You are talking about excuses.....that's all I hear right now. I know, that third world country known as the U.K. just hates people.

Can some mod change his name to karengz28, because all he does is bitch?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Can some mod change his name to karengz28, because all he does is bitch?

Almost as much as you......almost

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

In Miami, more than 50% of the Covid hospital numbers were people who came in to the hospital for something else.

Covid is assuredly going to be the principal diagnosis for nearly all cases.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

Covid is assuredly going to be the principal diagnosis for nearly all cases.

Not happening in the KC Metro, so..

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Not happening in the KC Metro, so..

Whats your source for this? I'm talking the specific ICD-10-CM principal diagnosis here. The one chiefly responsible for occasioning their admission.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

Whats your source for this? I'm talking the specific ICD-10-CM principal diagnosis here. The one chiefly responsible for occasioning their admission.

COVID cases are not the majority of hospital bed usage and ICU cases.

Post #48440

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Almost as much as you......almost

Do you know what some of the most recognizable disasters in the 20th century (Challenger, Chernobyl) all have in common? People rushing to meet deadlines and ignoring data for the sake of expediency. Do you know why the airline and nuclear industries are so safe? Because they have a series of redundant backups to check and recheck the material. It doesn't matter if it's been okay 99 times in a row, you don't skip the 100th time just because you want to get it done sooner.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

COVID cases are not the majority of hospital bed usage and ICU cases.

Post #48440

Thats a separate issue. The poster I quoted mentions that 50% of Covid hospital patients were seeking treatment for something else. Unless it involves airway, breathing, or circulation issues related to trauma, a COVID positive patient will assuredly be admitted as COVID being the principle diagnosis.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You are talking about excuses.....that's all I hear right now. I know, that third world country known as the U.K. just hates people.

What were your thoughts on testing early in the pandemic and how the US didn't ramp it up quickly?

[TLO]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-timeline.html

Where do you fall in line?

[BigCatDaddy]

Can't wait to get the vaccine so I don't have to wear a mask any longer . I'm about in the middle of the pack.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by TLO

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-timeline.html

Where do you fall in line?

Fifth out of 100. Yay cancer...?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TLO

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-timeline.html

Where do you fall in line?

No surprise, but I'll be waiting a while.

Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind 268.7 million people across the United States.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by petegz28

L.A. has gone full lockdown ....




https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ng-point-covid

What if you are just driving through LA on your way to an outside of LA destination? Highway 5 is a pretty major interstate going right through LA. Can you stop for gas?

Enforcement of this type of shit is near impossible without martial law.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by TLO

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-timeline.html

Where do you fall in line?

They're placing me in the bottom 10 percent. That's humbling. I think the only people behind me are people on death row in solitary confinement. Even the people on death row in the general population cell blocks are ahead of me.

That's kind of silly. No way should I be behind children. I'm old and I produce tax revenue.