***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[stevieray]

**** China for creating this and sending people all over the globe.

Hell, they might've put them on planes at gunpoint.

That's who is to blame.

China.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by stevieray

**** China for creating this and sending people all over the globe.

Hell, they might've put them on planes at gunpoint.

That's who is to blame.

China. Certain Old Man With a Spray Tan

FYP

[O.city]

You'd also have to check the specifics on those serology tests. They coudl be picking up some cross reactive AB"s to other corona viruses.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

It matters a great deal.

It's difficult to take someone seriously who continues to post articles from six months ago as if our knowledge hasn't changed since then. So I guess I'm done.

[dirk digler]

The other angle to consider is that if we're supposed to believe that 2.0% of random blood donors in Dec 2019 are COVID+ this would translate to millions of infections in the population at large, in which case we would have noticed due to people dying in large numbers. 10/10

— Trevor Bedford (@trvrb) December 1, 2020

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

I just spoke with my dad. It was very hard to understand him. I assume because he's weak and winded. He said he's doing better. I noticed his short term memory is off and normally it's pretty good. He suffers from high blood pressure but right now his blood pressure is low so they're trying to get that sorted out. They're going to check his lungs for fluid soon. They told him he might be able to go home tomorrow. He was much more lucid than my last couple conversations. He even cracked a couple jokes.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Covid was here as early as December?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...re-china-cases

They think it was in Italy as early as Sept. '19...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1723243.html

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

I just spoke with my dad. It was very hard to understand him. I assume because he's weak and winded. He said he's doing better. I noticed his short term memory is off and normally it's pretty good. He suffers from high blood pressure but right now his blood pressure is low so they're trying to get that sorted out. They're going to check his lungs for fluid soon. They told him he might be able to go home tomorrow. He was much more lucid than my last couple conversations. He even cracked a couple jokes.

That's good news!!!

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Monticore

the same crowd that wants it to have been here in November is the same crowd that would freak out if they started looking into excess deaths during that same timeframe and attributing them to covid.

Why is there a crowd that wanted it here then? I really don't give a shit either way. I just want it over.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's difficult to take someone seriously who continues to post articles from six months ago as if our knowledge hasn't changed since then. So I guess I'm done.

You completely missed the point of it. There was a huge Team A vs Team B on this months ago where the Imperial College was arguing with Oxford.

I think we not only need to look forward but know where we've been. Because all of the arguments back then are still relevant now.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Why is there a crowd that wanted it here then? I really don't give a shit either way. I just want it over.

I have no idea , but I am with you , I just want it done.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

I just spoke with my dad. It was very hard to understand him. I assume because he's weak and winded. He said he's doing better. I noticed his short term memory is off and normally it's pretty good. He suffers from high blood pressure but right now his blood pressure is low so they're trying to get that sorted out. They're going to check his lungs for fluid soon. They told him he might be able to go home tomorrow. He was much more lucid than my last couple conversations. He even cracked a couple jokes.

Great ****ing news, man. So happy for you, your dad, and your fam.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

Yesterday was 63 in St Joe
Today is 74

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Thanks. I usually see the damn things reported daily. When they fall the local media and groups don't seem to be quite as anxious to post them.

The won't get those "wows", "sad faces" and wear your damn mask comments.

Today

Represents testing results from Mosaic facilities only. Last updated: December 1, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.

Number of tests Mosaic issued: 52,218
Number of tests pending results: 430
Number of Mosaic positive tests: 6,191 – current inpatients: 80 total (St. Joseph – 69, Maryville – 7, Albany – 4)
Number of negative tests: 45,597

[O.city]

TLO, some of this may be them tightening up the parameters to be admitted. As you get less resources, you kinda have to triage who stays and who gets sent home.

[petegz28]

And for the latest episode of "why don't people take this seriously??"

LA County Supervisor dines at restaurant hours after voting to ban outdoor dining

https://www.foxla.com/news/la-county...outdoor-dining

SANTA MONICA, Calif. - Just hours after Los Angeles County Supervisor Sheila Kuehl voted to ban outdoor dining at L.A. County’s 31,000 restaurants over COVID-19 safety concerns, she visited a restaurant in Santa Monica, where she dined outdoors, FOX 11 learned on Monday.