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ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-23-2019, 09:33 AM

Former Giants’ DC and HC Steve Spagnuolo has emerged as the favorite to replace Bob Sutton as the Chiefs’ defensive coordinator, per sources.

Spagnuolo and Andy Reid worked together in Philadelphia, share the same agent and have a mutual respect for each other’s work.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 23, 2019

The #Chiefs are hiring Steve Spagnuolo as their new defensive coordinator, sources say. The former #Giants DC and interim HC/#Rams HC began his NFL coaching career as an #Eagles assistant under Andy Reid. Now rejoins Big Red in KC.
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 24, 2019

Titty Meat · 01-23-2019, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Why?

With where the league is going playing 3-4 when so many other teams do it is going to be super difficult.

We have all the pieces to be disruptive we just need to upgrade the secondary.

Mecca · 01-23-2019, 12:56 PM

Moving forward having big dudes standing with coverage responsibility just seems like a bad idea.

I'd rather they just rush, I don't like seeing Dee Ford dropping out when he is balls at it.

saphojunkie · 01-23-2019, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

**** the 43

**Bowser** · 01-23-2019, 12:58 PM

If Spagnuolo was a Jim Johnson disciple, what's to say he'll move back to a 4-3 under just because? If he looks at this personnel he might well decide to stay in a 3-4 and just augment it from a bend-but-don't-break to an aggressive zone blitz scheme like Johnson ran.

**BossChief** · 01-23-2019, 12:58 PM

Not a fan of this news. This guy is the homeless Jim Haslett.

saphojunkie · 01-23-2019, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Moving forward having big dudes standing with coverage responsibility just seems like a bad idea.

I'd rather they just rush, I don't like seeing Dee Ford dropping out when he is balls at it.

I have wanted to see us move against the 3-4 trend for awhile. I think you can find value in players that way.

Anyone who thinks the 4-3 won't work didn't watch Bosa and Ingram tear it up.

Chris Meck · 01-23-2019, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Moving forward having big dudes standing with coverage responsibility just seems like a bad idea.

I'd rather they just rush, I don't like seeing Dee Ford dropping out when he is balls at it.

Or worse, Speaks trying to cover backs in the flat.

I agree.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-23-2019, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

If Spagnuolo was a Jim Johnson disciple, what's to say he'll move back to a 4-3 under just because? If he looks at this personnel he might well decide to stay in a 3-4 and just augment it from a bend-but-don't-break to an aggressive zone blitz scheme like Johnson ran.

Yup when he was with Ravens they run a 3-4

**Bowser** · 01-23-2019, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Moving forward having big dudes standing with coverage responsibility just seems like a bad idea.

I'd rather they just rush, I don't like seeing Dee Ford dropping out when he is balls at it.

Him or Houston. They're paid to rush the passer, so let them (and I get that OLBers have to drop in 3-4s from time to time, but Christ. Especially Ford).

Mecca · 01-23-2019, 01:00 PM

Uh Jim Johnson was a 4-3 guy.

Mecca · 01-23-2019, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Him or Houston. They're paid to rush the passer, so let them (and I get that OLBers have to drop in 3-4s from time to time, but Christ. Especially Ford).

Yea, I think it's just time to move away from this defense, it requires a bunch of specialized personnel and when half the league does it, that makes it a problem.

**Bowser** · 01-23-2019, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Uh Jim Johnson was a 4-3 guy.

I don't remember that in his days in Philly....

Did he run that Falcon-like defense like we did with Derrick Thomas, maybe?

Chris Meck · 01-23-2019, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

If Spagnuolo was a Jim Johnson disciple, what's to say he'll move back to a 4-3 under just because? If he looks at this personnel he might well decide to stay in a 3-4 and just augment it from a bend-but-don't-break to an aggressive zone blitz scheme like Johnson ran.

because the only guys that fit a 3-4 are a wildly expensive often injured Justin Houston and a completely one dimensional speed rusher in Ford that's about to cost $15-20m a year.
Also, if you want to restructure Houston and keep him, he'd be fine as a RDE in a 4-3. So you're really staying in a 3-4 to accommodate Dee Ford who gets blocked by WR's on running plays.
Your ILB'ers also don't fit the scheme worth a shit.
So literally, just to keep Ford.

Meanwhile, you have the last two #2 picks that were DE's in college that have struggled to play OLB in a 3-4 sitting there rusting.

why would you do that?

**BossChief** · 01-23-2019, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I'd be ok extending him. I think a situation similar to what Suggs has done in Balt would be in order there.

I thought the same thing and Suggs did his team friendly deal when he was 32. But never really dealt with injuries like Houston has.

Houston really wants a ring. Hopefully, he is understanding when Veach calls him into his office, or calls him.

I’d be salty if we cut him and he ends up in Indy or NE.

**dirk digler** · 01-23-2019, 01:03 PM

Petro replayed his interview from last year's SB with Spags. Interesting interview and hopefully he will put it up on their podcast page.

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ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs ShowtimeSBMVP's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2009	Spagnuolo hired as DC Former Giants’ DC and HC Steve Spagnuolo has emerged as the favorite to replace Bob Sutton as the Chiefs’ defensive coordinator, per sources. Spagnuolo and Andy Reid worked together in Philadelphia, share the same agent and have a mutual respect for each other’s work. — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 23, 2019 The #Chiefs are hiring Steve Spagnuolo as their new defensive coordinator, sources say. The former #Giants DC and interim HC/#Rams HC began his NFL coaching career as an #Eagles assistant under Andy Reid. Now rejoins Big Red in KC. — Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 24, 2019 Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 01-24-2019 at 04:34 PM..
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dirk digler Please squeeze dirk digler's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO	Petro replayed his interview from last year's SB with Spags. Interesting interview and hopefully he will put it up on their podcast page.
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