***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by FAX

Speaking of handling this self-isolation/voluntarily-quarantined stuff and the impact of big business on our miserable, disgusting, increasingly temporary lives ...

I propose that Amazon makes all their movies free of charge for 60 days. Comcast, too.

FAX

Furthermore, every movie in theaters should be put on demand. I really want to see BEN AFFLECK IS...DRUNK BASKETBALL COACH.

[Frazod]

[petegz28]

Okay well the media cut off right when the WA Gov started to say restaurants can still to take out.

[neech]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is it wrong that every time I see that, I think of Diane Kruger and have to masturbate?

Creep

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

There is a difference between not taking it seriously and completely panicking. The media and talking heads are making it sound like that if you get it you're dead. That's their tone. And when you shut down everything you feed that tone.

Show me one article from a venerable media outlet that makes it sound like if you get it you are dead.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by FAX

Speaking of handling this self-isolation/voluntarily-quarantined stuff and the impact of big business on our miserable, disgusting, increasingly temporary lives ...

I propose that Amazon makes all their movies free of charge for 60 days. Comcast, too.

FAX

I’ve been practicing social distancing since Thursday. I’m already getting a little stir cray. I like your idea.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I’ve been practicing social distancing since Thursday. I’m already getting a little stir cray. I like your idea.

I've been practicing social distancing since adolescence.

[petegz28]

okay for all this Italy talk let's provide some numbers

Italy has 27,980 cases with 2,158 total deaths.

So everyone keeps saying we are on that path. Let's extrapolate just a touch....

Assuming our current case-mortality rate stays the same as it is today we would have roughly 1,670 fewer deaths.

Also our mortality rate is inching down. Last week we were 2.5% and we are down to 1.7%.

So either things are suddenly to going to explode in a bad way here or we are not heading towards Italy style scenarios.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Show me one article from a venerable media outlet that makes it sound like if you get it you are dead.

Turn on the news....tell me they aren't.

OMG, we gotta distance
OMG, we gotta shut down travel
OMG, we gotta shut down businesses
OMG, we gotta shut down schools
OMG, OMG, OMG

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Seems to me then all that was necessary was to quarantine older people and people with compromised immune systems and everyone else move on with their daily business.

Sure would have made a heck of a lot more sense than all this nonsense. Can anyone tell me why we're having this reaction to Covid-19 but were so chill with the more deadly swine flu a few years ago?

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

I guess we'll finally get answers to life long questions.....

How accurate was the Oregon Trail simulator?

Some people spent all of their money on TP, I spent all of mine on bullets and gas for my oxen.

TP guys won't make it to Ft Smith....

We have like minds.

[petegz28]

State of LA adds to closures. Shuts down a lot of things for the next month.

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by petegz28

NJ putting in an 8pm curfew across the board for the most part

Because viruses only come out at night?

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Turn on the news....tell me they aren't.



OMG, we gotta distance

OMG, we gotta shut down travel

OMG, we gotta shut down businesses

OMG, we gotta shut down schools

OMG, OMG, OMG

Stop watching CNN.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

Sure would have made a heck of a lot more sense than all this nonsense. Can anyone tell me why we're having this reaction to Covid-19 but were so chill with the more deadly swine flu a few years ago?

This is a non-political thread so we won't go there