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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****
They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 10-18-2023, 07:27 PM   #4636
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I was just asking……….dick
Oh, sorry, didn't mean to actually hurt your feelings. just thought it was funny.

Scary Terry isn't going anywhere unless someone gives him close to $20 million/yr. KC, so I've been told repeatedly, doesn't have anywhere near that kind of scratch.
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Old 10-18-2023, 07:29 PM   #4637
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Sorry, to be clear… I don’t know how I feel about Mooney because I’m not sure (in spite of what small sample size stats might say) that he can be reliable vs man. If we aren’t confident in that I’d rather just wait til the offseason. We’ve got decent horses now that I think we focus on getting the right fit vs the best name we can afford


Gotcha.


Vs. man, I don't know, except on the outside, based on his highlight reels. He seems to be pretty comfortable outside vs. man. Inside, I'm not sure vs. man.
Vs. zone, he seems decent. Overall, he seems better than what we have right now.

Better?
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Old 10-18-2023, 07:30 PM   #4638
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Oh, sorry, didn't mean to actually hurt your feelings. just thought it was funny.

Scary Terry isn't going anywhere unless someone gives him close to $20 million/yr. KC, so I've been told repeatedly, doesn't have anywhere near that kind of scratch.
Uhhh, McLaurin is well worth that and we'd pay that in a heartbeat for him.

Hollywood Brown on the other hand is arguably not worth that but he'll be seeking at least that.

You're outside of reality with the above take.
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Old 10-18-2023, 07:36 PM   #4639
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Uhhh, McLaurin is well worth that and we'd pay that in a heartbeat for him.

Hollywood Brown on the other hand is arguably not worth that but he'll be seeking at least that.

You're outside of reality with the above take.


Since when do we have $20 million/yr for one WR?

And my take is exactly the same as every poster in this thread that has repeatedly said that we aren't paying one WR $20 million/yr.


And I've never been a fan of Brown coming here, so I have no idea what you're talking about there.
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Old 10-18-2023, 07:50 PM   #4640
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Since when do we have $20 million/yr for one WR?

And my take is exactly the same as every poster in this thread that has repeatedly said that we aren't paying one WR $20 million/yr.


And I've never been a fan of Brown coming here, so I have no idea what you're talking about there.
MVS makes roughly half of that. Hill was going to get meaningfully more than that in the contract we offered 1.5yrs ago.
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Old 10-18-2023, 07:54 PM   #4641
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My guess is Mooney gets 15 million plus in FA next year but his cap hit this year would be less than 3.
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Old 10-18-2023, 08:00 PM   #4642
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My guess is Mooney gets 15 million plus in FA next year but his cap hit this year would be less than 3.
So what would you give up for him?
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Old 10-18-2023, 08:09 PM   #4643
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“I think the Cardinals would ask for a second-round pick but likely end up settling for a third-rounder with maybe a late-round swap as well.”

“If I'm Brown's camp, I'm looking at that Christian Kirk contract (four years, $72 million) as a baseline for what Brown could probably get as the salary cap continues to rise. Brown can easily outproduce Kirk, so on a dollar-for-dollar comp that's not awful.”
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Old 10-18-2023, 08:25 PM   #4644
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Wait - all we needed to do was get Hardman and now you're on board with the receivers!?!?

At last, we can share everything!
Im not satisfied that this is the best we can do. But am I ok with it? Yeah. I said I was fine with banking on rashee to be our upgrade for this season… for now. And mecole obviously makes our room better. just because I want to get better talent doesn’t mean I support throwing picks and $s unless we see a long term fit.

I still think it’s very important to focus on WR this offseason even if it is through the draft.
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Old 10-18-2023, 08:32 PM   #4645
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Im not satisfied that this is the best we can do. But am I ok with it? Yeah. I said I was fine with banking on rashee to be our upgrade for this season… for now. And mecole obviously makes our room better. just because I want to get better talent doesn’t mean I support throwing picks and $s unless we see a long term fit.

I still think it’s very important to focus on WR this offseason even if it is through the draft.
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Old 10-18-2023, 08:38 PM   #4646
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Im not satisfied that this is the best we can do. But am I ok with it? Yeah. I said I was fine with banking on rashee to be our upgrade for this season… for now. And mecole obviously makes our room better. just because I want to get better talent doesn’t mean I support throwing picks and $s unless we see a long term fit.

I still think it’s very important to focus on WR this offseason even if it is through the draft.
On that we agree. I would probably be taking a WR or TE every year pretty early if the board fell in such a way that it wasn't a reach.
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So what would you give up for him?
I would offer a 3.
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Mooney is kind of intriguing because he seems like the kind of cheap value, high upside WR veach loves. And even if Hollywood sounds intriguing I’d really just like a guy who’s known to be good against man coverage. These are 2 guys you trade for if you want a long term relationship unless you get dirt cheap draft value. Even if I’d love to improve here where we can I also want to improve in the right ways.
Mooney can beat man or zone.

Not only that but for a small guy he is strong and will highpoint down the field.
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I would offer a 3.
I guarantee you they would jump at that trade proposal. Good news - you value Mooney much more than the rest of the league.
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I guarantee you they would jump at that trade proposal. Good news - you value Mooney much more than the rest of the league.
Mooney would be the #1 WR here so there's value for us.


As to the rest of the league, I'm guessing on the market he would get 15 million. He is a significantly better football player than MVS and we gave him 10-11 million a year.
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