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Old 01-23-2019, 09:33 AM  
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:29 PM   #451
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Is there any chance White is there late in the first?
nope.

you could package picks and move up I guess, but we kind of need bodies.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:29 PM   #452
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If the defensive ranking is higher than 31st, it was a solid hire for 2019-2020.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:29 PM   #453
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that Reid clearly sees the urgency.
I don't know that he really did, I think Clark had a talk with him and when that happened Reid then had to talk to the players in order to get a correct locker room temperature on Sutton.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:30 PM   #454
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hell, if they just tackle better, it'd move them up 5 spots.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:32 PM   #455
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Hell no. That dude is going top 10....top 15 at the latest.
I haven't looked at much draft stuff yet, that sucks.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:32 PM   #456
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Is there any chance White is there late in the first?
No. The hope would be slide into the late teens and trade up.

But if he does what I think he will at the combine that's probably a pipe dream.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:34 PM   #457
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Yeah - far better to give it to the guy that's failed about 3/4 of the time he's been given plenary authority over a defense over the last decade.

I mean everyone has excuses. ****, you can make excuses for Sutton if you want to. And I'm sure people will be here next season making excuses for Spagnuolo as well.

This is the time that the Chiefs should be making bold moves designed to push through the ceiling. They actually have an offense that can help the young up and comer while he gets his feet under him and takes command of that side of the ball over the course of a season. Shit, they carried the defense to the #1 seed this year.

The key is to have a cohesive unit by the post-season and I think a young guy would've had plenty of time to do so. Instead we're just recycling Reid's cronies.

Folks - this is the shit that proved his undoing in Philadelphia. I think Andy's one of the 10 best coaches of all time but goddammit we cannot lose another playoff game because the DC got his job out of misplaced loyalty and/or simple familiarity.

There are BETTER guys out there than Spaguolo. And if we take a chance on a guy who hasn't done it before (or not at this level) you're right that it's possible we won't actually get one of them. But if we don't take the chance, this product of his own press clippings is gonna be the same fungible asshole with a headset we've seen on the sidelines before.

You know who he is? He's just another Gunther. It took multiple failures, included failed HC stints, for people to realize that he was a nothing; just a product of Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith. But he yelled a lot on the sidelines and blitzed some so people just assumed he was a genius. Well we're at about the same point in the Steve Spagnuolo career arc. Let's just get him some yellow sunglasses and we should be good to go.
Wade Phillips is considered a great defensive coach. How many rings does he have for all those great defenses?
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:37 PM   #458
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Wade Phillips is considered a great defensive coach. How many rings does he have for all those great defenses?

and he's had washed out as a head coach as well as had some less than stellar defenses.

but yeah, I think he is an excellent defensive coordinator.

situations matter. talent level matters.



Sutton had a great situation, and in 6 years was unable to get the talent to run his scheme. Time for a change.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:40 PM   #459
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With this move, maybe it might be interesting to give Jay valai a more prominent role. If Andy is about innovation I want him being fed a shitload of information about what's working in the college game.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:41 PM   #460
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Me, doing wishful thinking: "Well he doesn't have any Chiefs phone numbers so he's answering anything 816."
That was the point.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:42 PM   #461
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I bet Spagnuolo thought that number was KC's FO calling him to discuss the contract, that is why he picked it up .
Nothing gets past you guys.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:42 PM   #462
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I bet Spagnuolo thought that number was KC's FO calling him to discuss the contract, that is why he picked it up .
Nice connection there!
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:45 PM   #463
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I'd love to have the next great defensive mind. But unfortunately that person either already has a job or has yet to prove themselves. I'm willing to settle for a coach who knows when to be aggressive and when to freaking adjust in game.

That last Brady drive in regulation - they had the ball with 2 minutes left and we had TOs.

So what do you do in that situation?

a) Play a gambling defense to get a stop, try to shut down the short passes, knowing that if you give up a big play at least you get the ball back?

b) Play your safeties way off the ball trying to prevent the big play, and die of death by papercut?

Guess what BOB did?
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:48 PM   #464
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:50 PM   #465
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**** the 43
Why?

With where the league is going playing 3-4 when so many other teams do it is going to be super difficult.
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