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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****
They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 09-08-2023, 10:50 AM   #451
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I have the opposite perspective. A lukewarm offense + a great defensive performance is unsettling for us. A great offense + a lukewarm defensive performance is usually satisfying.

I’d rather our offense just do their thing and have the defense figure things out.

Because I also don’t trust even a loaded defense to consistently stop all our top competition on offense. They’ll have games where the other offense just eats. On the other hand I think our offense CAN consistently play well against even the best of defenses.
Spot on.
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Old 09-08-2023, 10:51 AM   #452
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We're going to end up having to dumb down the offense for them. No more option routes for anyone other than Kelce. Just run your route and get to a spot.
That's going to make zone defenses particularly effective against us, as we saw last night.
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Old 09-08-2023, 10:52 AM   #453
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I understand Veach wanted to create a balanced team so we spent the last few years focused on adding to the D.

Next year I want all offense and weapons.
To be fair...

CEH - 1st round pick (bust)
Skyy - 2nd round pick (jury is out, but time's-a-tickin')
Rice - 2nd round pick (jury is out)

Some might argue that resources have spent, but it's the return that's the issue, which points to the scouting department.
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Old 09-08-2023, 10:52 AM   #454
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I understand Veach wanted to create a balanced team so we spent the last few years focused on adding to the D.

Next year I want all offense and weapons.
As long as we pivot I’ll be fine. But is that possible? Or is a gun you constantly have to reload. Because as we try to do that, we will also start making hard decisions about groups like our interior OL and linebackers. They’re either going to soak up a lot of payroll and/or cost some picks. Dealing with guys like Snead reinforces the need to constantly feed the DB pipeline.
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Old 09-08-2023, 10:52 AM   #455
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That's going to make zone defenses particularly effective against us, as we saw last night.
The amount of targets Moore generated last night shows you how much Mahomes trusts him to read zone properly.
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Old 09-08-2023, 10:54 AM   #456
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That's going to make zone defenses particularly effective against us, as we saw last night.
Reid can draw up route combinations to make it work. I don't think he can rely on them reading the defense and choosing the correct route for themselves like he likes to on the other hand. They just end up where Mahomes doesn't expect them to be majority of the time. Unlike Kelce who basically doesn't even have a playbook at this point but is so in tune with Mahomes, they both know what route to run against any defense presented to them.
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Old 09-08-2023, 10:55 AM   #457
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To be fair...

CEH - 1st round pick (bust)
Skyy - 2nd round pick (jury is out, but time's-a-tickin')
Rice - 2nd round pick (jury is out)

Some might argue that resources have spent, but it's the return that's the issue, which points to the scouting department.
CEH was a while ago. And Tyreek Hill not paid and traded.

We need more but of course it would be nice to hit on your 2s.

My issue with Skyy pick is the upside seemed low. Even if he hit he would be a guy that isn't too hard to acquire in FA.
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Old 09-08-2023, 10:55 AM   #458
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The absolute worst thing you can see is your QB double clutching, hitting the top of the drop and just waiting...pulling it down..leaving a pocket after 4 seconds..

Because it entirely indicates that the receivers are incapable of getting open early or late.
Yeah they weren't open on those drops.

Just pump the brakes there, dude.
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Old 09-08-2023, 10:56 AM   #459
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The offense will be fine. WR's catch routine passes and we roll.
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Old 09-08-2023, 10:57 AM   #460
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Yeah they weren't open on those drops.

Just pump the brakes there, dude.
Bro Mahomes gave the guys aren't open indications a bunch...that was on top of drops..

Shit it's why Toney kept getting targets no one else was getting open.
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Old 09-08-2023, 10:58 AM   #461
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To be fair...

CEH - 1st round pick (bust)
Skyy - 2nd round pick (jury is out, but time's-a-tickin')
Rice - 2nd round pick (jury is out)

Some might argue that resources have spent, but it's the return that's the issue, which points to the scouting department.
Probably wouldn't label Hardman a bust necessarily but he wasn't worth a second and is off the team..

Veach doesn't have a great track record with drafting offensive skill positions. He inherited Kelce and Tyreek.
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To be fair...

CEH - 1st round pick (bust)
Skyy - 2nd round pick (jury is out, but time's-a-tickin')
Rice - 2nd round pick (jury is out)

Some might argue that resources have spent, but it's the return that's the issue, which points to the scouting department.
My issue is that in pursuit of a defense (and I get the urgency) it often feels like we react to an offensive position group falling apart vs proactively fixing. Kelce is a great current example. will we wait for kelce to leave before we bring in a TE1? As opposed to saying a TE1 can make a great TE2 until kelce eases his transition off.

I don’t buy into the idea that having tyreek and kelce made the wr position any less important. Considering depth players still play roles. But we did treat wr depth like an afterthought for a good while.
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My issue is that in pursuit of a defense (and I get the urgency) it often feels like we react to an offensive position group falling apart vs proactively fixing. Kelce is a great current example. will we wait for kelce to leave before we bring in a TE1? As opposed to saying a TE1 can make a great TE2 until kelce eases his transition off.

I don’t buy into the idea that having tyreek and kelce made the wr position any less important. Considering depth players still play roles. But we did treat wr depth like an afterthought for a good while.
I liked Kincaid and La Porta this draft. Seems like we weren't really looking at them.
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Excellent cut up. There was some missed opportunities but also not alot of separation either. Expect to see almost all zone moving forward I bet lol
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Can someone who knows the x’s and o’s explain that Skyy Moore route to me? Looks like it’s a 25 yard hitch. Is that even a thing?
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Put James in Skyy's spot.

Give Rice more routes.

Give Toney the Mecole role.

IF that doesn't work, trade for Marquise Brown or Chris Godwin.

Profit.
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