***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

The Lilly drug is a therapeutic, right? I've been hearing more about vaccines, so I was confused since I hadn't heard Lilly in that pack of companies.

Correct. But it has to be given very early on in the course of the disease to be effective.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I don’t want to disclose a bunch of details, but my significant other, who is young and very healthy — has COVID. It’s a struggle right now. Pre-existing conditions have her battling like I never would have imagined. And damn it, it is tough getting through each day not knowing what the future holds. Thought things would be getting better by now, but so far only worse.

Please, protect your peers to the best of your ability. Wear a mask, keep your space whenever possible. This shit is real and it is not over.

Wishing anyone else who might be in a similar spot the absolute best.

Damn man

I know it’s rough. Take care of what you can. Will keep you guys in our thoughts

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I don’t want to disclose a bunch of details, but my significant other, who is young and very healthy — has COVID. It’s a struggle right now. Pre-existing conditions have her battling like I never would have imagined. And damn it, it is tough getting through each day not knowing what the future holds. Thought things would be getting better by now, but so far only worse.

Please, protect your peers to the best of your ability. Wear a mask, keep your space whenever possible. This shit is real and it is not over.

Wishing anyone else who might be in a similar spot the absolute best.

Hang in there man. Good thoughts coming your way.

[O.city]

Limiting elective surgeries here in Greene county at the hospitals

[Chief Roundup]

Now the daughter of one of the people I work with, share an office space with and who does not wear a mask most of the time, has tested positive and he has been in close contact with her for the last two days. We are having him isolate until Monday and we will have him tested. It is required that his wife also gets tested. If she test positive then he has to isolate from her, he is required to isolate from his daughter, an adult with her own house, for 14 days or until she has 2 negative tests.

[Pants]

This all ****ing sucks.

Need those vaccines badly and April seems like a goddamn eternity from now.

[RunKC]

Do we know when the vaccine is projected for clearance? Figured with recent news we’re close. Maybe January?

[Pants]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Do we know when the vaccine is projected for clearance? Figured with recent news we’re close. Maybe January?

They are saying April for the average Joe to start getting it.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'm definitely worried about my dad, though. He's 69, has asthma, and had a heart attack around 10 years ago. I really hope he can stay isolated enough for a few more months.

I have an elderly mother-in-law with underlying health issues living in rural Missouri by herself. She won’t move, even temporarily. So far so good but my wife worries about her health all the time. We have taught her to use FaceTime so that helps read the situation.

[petegz28]

so some political talking head on the radio just said if you have had Covid you now have a pre-existing condition. WTF and I missing here?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I don’t want to disclose a bunch of details, but my significant other, who is young and very healthy — has COVID. It’s a struggle right now. Pre-existing conditions have her battling like I never would have imagined. And damn it, it is tough getting through each day not knowing what the future holds. Thought things would be getting better by now, but so far only worse.

Please, protect your peers to the best of your ability. Wear a mask, keep your space whenever possible. This shit is real and it is not over.

Wishing anyone else who might be in a similar spot the absolute best.

Positive thoughts heading your way.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by petegz28

so some political talking head on the radio just said if you have had Covid you now have a pre-existing condition. WTF and I missing here?

I would tell you, but not here.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by petegz28

so some political talking head on the radio just said if you have had Covid you now have a pre-existing condition. WTF and I missing here?

It’s my understanding that all insurance companies are considering a positive Covid test a pre-existing condition. Due to the unknown long term effects. Some of the long haulers are still having issues months later. Mental issues are lingering in many. Or so they say anyway.

Insurance companies trying to keep from covering a condition, especially one that could be expensive to cover is to be expected, shouldn’t it?

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by petegz28

so some political talking head on the radio just said if you have had Covid you now have a pre-existing condition. WTF and I missing here?

Do you suppose they know what they are talking about Or just putting bs out there?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

so some political talking head on the radio just said if you have had Covid you now have a pre-existing condition. WTF and I missing here?

Just another reason to not get tested.