***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Well...thanks to the virus panic mongers, my business will be shut down until March 31st. No income and can't even take a vacation because we might get stuck somewhere during this lunacy.

This is not even about the virus any longer- it is about taking over this country.

Zero cases in the entire county- yet the city is going on full lockdown. You can't even go to a nature park now- ridiculous. Store shelves are empty and small businesses will be hurting including my own.

Yeah things are spiraling out of control quickly. I wonder how many people are going to lose their jobs over this? I got a call this morning and was told that my job had been eliminated due to their perceived notion that there would be lack of business, due to the Corona scare. They basically cut me loose and my entire sales team. At least I have a cash reserve to hold me over, but a lot of my sales team doesn't.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah things are spiraling out of control quickly. I wonder how many people are going to lose their jobs over this? I got a call this morning and was told that my job had been eliminated due to their perceived notion that there would be lack of business, due to the Corona scare. They basically cut me loose and my entire sales team. At least I have a cash reserve to hold me over, but a lot of my sales team doesn't.

God dammit

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah things are spiraling out of control quickly. I wonder how many people are going to lose their jobs over this? I got a call this morning and was told that my job had been eliminated due to their perceived notion that there would be lack of business, due to the Corona scare. They basically cut me loose and my entire sales team. At least I have a cash reserve to hold me over, but a lot of my sales team doesn't.

****. Sorry brother.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah things are spiraling out of control quickly. I wonder how many people are going to lose their jobs over this? I got a call this morning and was told that my job had been eliminated due to their perceived notion that there would be lack of business, due to the Corona scare. They basically cut me loose and my entire sales team. At least I have a cash reserve to hold me over, but a lot of my sales team doesn't.

**** man....sorry to hear that.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Why do you think it’s ridiculous?

Closing down nature parks is ridiculous. We can't even get outside and walk trails now without dying?

Common sense has disappeared.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Without sports, we need some sort of competition. Are we going to let Japan and South Korea beat us? Socially isolate, people, and let's win this freaking thing!

there is some fierce action.

[SuperBowl4]

HAPPY SAINT PATRICK'S DAY EVE EVERYONE! ERIN GO BRAGH!

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Closing down nature parks is ridiculous. We can't even get outside and walk trails now without dying?

Common sense has disappeared.

When we see thousands of people gathering at Disney, bars, etc. sometimes the decision has to be made for these idiots....sucks but the way it is.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah things are spiraling out of control quickly. I wonder how many people are going to lose their jobs over this? I got a call this morning and was told that my job had been eliminated due to their perceived notion that there would be lack of business, due to the Corona scare. They basically cut me loose and my entire sales team. At least I have a cash reserve to hold me over, but a lot of my sales team doesn't.

Ugh, sorry man. Hate reading this.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah things are spiraling out of control quickly. I wonder how many people are going to lose their jobs over this? I got a call this morning and was told that my job had been eliminated due to their perceived notion that there would be lack of business, due to the Corona scare. They basically cut me loose and my entire sales team. At least I have a cash reserve to hold me over, but a lot of my sales team doesn't.

Sorry to hear this. Yep, on Friday, my business was slashed 40% due to the cancelation of all programs and events- then today down to 0. We have until noon to get what we want before everything is locked down for the month.

[Rain Man]

Sorry to hear, bwana and halfcan. Hopefully this thing lasts a month or so and then we can all get back to normal.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah things are spiraling out of control quickly. I wonder how many people are going to lose their jobs over this? I got a call this morning and was told that my job had been eliminated due to their perceived notion that there would be lack of business, due to the Corona scare. They basically cut me loose and my entire sales team. At least I have a cash reserve to hold me over, but a lot of my sales team doesn't.

Sorry to hear that man.

I'm sure it is happening to a lot of people. I know my one friend lost his job.

[Donger]

Does anyone here know anything or preferably work in the retail supply chain, specifically grocery stores?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Let the curve flattening begin: https://t.co/GLp2DQjnfG

— Ryan Ross (@rrossAPP) March 16, 2020

It's coming, just a matter of when....

Yup.

For the record I agree it needs to. We either stop the spread or people will lose more than businesses and bank accounts.

If people panic, riot, or loot you lose those things and more.

I live in a dogshit neighborhood that averaged a fatal shooting a month for the last two years. Last may the tornado hit and around 60-70% of the houses where I live were ruined. The people left were not great people.

I was worried the worst was inevitable. The next day we couldn't leave and the streets were blocked off. People walked around, shook hands, and I met neighbors that lived 5 houses down I hadn't met in 7 years. People shared water, smokes, snacks.

These weren't good people. Drug addicts, drunks, lifetime welfare parents that screamed at and then violently beat their kids. Life was forced to slow down though and given the option to hard reset I was shocked how everyone did. When given a chance to un-**** themselves they did and were human again. People were polite and charitable. I was amazed and I'll never forget it.

Now, a serious virus is much different than a tornado but we are all capable of being much more than we are right now. Everyone is worried but these types of events can also bring out the best in people...

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

Does anyone here know anything or preferably work in the retail supply chain, specifically grocery stores?

If you're wondering if food is going to run out, not even close to that time. The warehouses are stocked for months, it's just a matter of trucks getting to the stores to replenish all the panic buying. I read an article about it last night.