***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

What's not great is the 24 days of school my kid has to miss now....what a bunch of crap!

There are strong incentives to not get tested. (Sorry for being politically incorrect here).

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

There are strong incentives to not get tested. (Sorry for being politically incorrect here).

You are exactly right. Things actually would have been better in a lot of ways had I not got tested.


The irony of it is they want my Son to "isolate" for 10 days then "quarantine" for another 14. I'm like that doesn't even make any ****ing sense at all!

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You are exactly right. Things actually would have been better in a lot of ways had I not got tested.


The irony of it is they want my Son to "isolate" for 10 days then "quarantine" for another 14. I'm like that doesn't even make any ****ing sense at all!

It's kind of the dirty little secret nobody talks about. Don't get tested and don't put your team or friends in jeopardy.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You are exactly right. Things actually would have been better in a lot of ways had I not got tested.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

It's kind of the dirty little secret nobody talks about. Don't get tested and don't put your team or friends in jeopardy.

Yeah just go back into society like nothing is wrong. I'm sure that couldn't possibly do any harm.

I don't think Covid is as deadly to most as it was previously, and agree that lockdowns can do more harm than good, but I can never get behind "no big deal, just ignore it", mostly because I see my grandparents going on 7 months of isolating with no end in sight because everyone shrugs their shoulders.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

It's kind of the dirty little secret nobody talks about. Don't get tested and don't put your team or friends in jeopardy.

The ****ed up part is I can go to work 10 days after my symptom onset day as long as I feel good. But they want my child who is the least at risk to spend 10 days + another 14???

I mean that is just ****ing insane.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by sedated

Yeah just go back into society like nothing is wrong. I'm sure that couldn't possibly do any harm.

I don't think Covid is as deadly to most as it was previously, and agree that lockdowns can do more harm than good, but I can never get behind "no big deal, just ignore it", mostly because I see my grandparents going on 7 months of isolating with no end in sight because everyone shrugs their shoulders.

Obviously I didn't ignore it but he makes a good point. Had I tested and not said anything my kid is in school tomorrow. Instead he has at least until November 12th.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Obviously I didn't ignore it but he makes a good point. Had I tested and not said anything my kid is in school tomorrow. Instead he has at least until November 12th.

And I'll bet a few individuals (not you) are doing that.

[eDave]

Posting this as a baseline. Let's revisit in 2 weeks after all the douche-baggery and stupidity today and over the weekend by a certain element of society.

[Baby Lee]

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[Discuss Thrower]

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[TLO]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

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[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

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[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by eDave

Posting this as a baseline. Let's revisit in 2 weeks after all the douche-baggery and stupidity today and over the weekend by a certain element of society.

We all know who's fault this is. That certain element and its' evil leader

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The ****ed up part is I can go to work 10 days after my symptom onset day as long as I feel good. But they want my child who is the least at risk to spend 10 days + another 14???

I mean that is just ****ing insane.

Let's say you are a senior high school football player. Your team is in the playoffs and you start to feel a bit under the weather. Are you rushing out to get tested asap? Are you even telling your parents? Obviously it's the end of a season and career for all your friends and teammates.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Let's say you are a senior high school football player. Your team is in the playoffs and you start to feel a bit under the weather. Are you rushing out to get tested asap? Are you even telling your parents? Obviously it's the end of a season and career for all your friends and teammates.

Probably not

But I also don’t think the mentality of an 18 year old is really.......well thought out?