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#45406 |
Generational Player
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
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Stanford Professor Warns COVID Shelter-in-Place Orders Are ‘Killing People'
Infectious disease experts and epidemiologists from universities like Stanford, Yale, Harvard and Oxford say current shelter-in-place policies are not effectively protecting vulnerable people from COVID-19, while devastating public health in ways that will lead to irreparable harm for years to come. Vulnerable people, he believes, should continue to shelter in place, and anyone living or working in a high risk setting should receive weekly COVID-19 testing and careful contact tracing. He recommends similar measures for meat packing plants, prisons and especially nursing homes, where Centers for Disease Control data shows about one-third of all deaths have occurred. At the same time, Ioannidis is convinced that shelter in place orders are doing great harm to the rest of society. “We know that 95% of the population has practically minimal risk,” he said, adding “It's unlikely that in the current situation we are really saving lives. I think that probably we're killing people by following some of these measures for forever.” According to the American College of Emergency Physicians, 29% of Americans are avoiding or delaying medical care due to fear of catching the coronavirus. https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investiga...eople/2376796/ |
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"You like to drink?"
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: "I like to drink."
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#45408 |
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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My county just went down one tier because our cases are declining and Covid patients in hospitals are almost in the teens in my county after a high of 120 in July. My gym is open and i got an indoor haircut yesterday. Good stuff
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#45409 |
Life is changing..
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
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#45410 |
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Olathe, Ks
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More youth are dying of suicide, overdose than COVID-19 during pandemic: CDC director
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"You like to drink?"
Join Date: Jun 2006
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#45412 | |
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Studio City, CA
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His reasoning is flawed. He says that people in risk groups should continue to shelter in place but for the rest of the people they aren't seeking medical help when sick with other problems because of the shelter in place order and therefore are dying. What a stupid argument. |
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Consuming CP souls
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: U.S.A.
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#45414 | |
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Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
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I'm going to take a wild guess and think he knows more about the data than you do. |
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#45415 | |
Diablo Negro
Join Date: Sep 2003
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#45416 |
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Olathe, Ks
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I wasn't even going to argue with him about it. One person has said these kids just need to "suck it up". Another says these are not Covid-related deaths. Now we have one that just says this is stupid.
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#45417 |
Like I woke up in Wonderland..
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: KCMO
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I was under the impression no one believed anything the WHO says anymore after they helped China cover up the outbreak.
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#45418 | |
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Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
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#45419 | |
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Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
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Almost ten times lower than what the media has been pushing since March. |
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#45420 | |
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Olathe, Ks
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For example: Here in JoCo ages 70+ are only 9% of cases but 86% of all deaths. The other 91% of cases are 14% of deaths and that includes 0 deaths in ages 0-19. The sad reality of this is if you are 70 or over this is a severe risk. If you are under 70 not so much particularly the younger you are. |
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