QB Impressions

[Direckshun]

First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight.

DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
6'4", 230 lbs
26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards

I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
6'3", 220 lbs
30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards

Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

What makes you say that?

Because Direckshun doesn't watch the games. He watches highlight videos and reads articles.

[SAGA45]

Which of these guys has that off-field fire?..Which one will get with his wr's, te's, backs and oline on the sideline if somebody dropped a pass or missed a block?

Which one will talk to the defense and tell em he needs a stop? Which one is an emotional leader? Which one raises the level of those around him instead of needing them to raise his? ...That's what separates a Derek Carr or Tom Brady from the rest of the pack. No more quiet types...no more Alex Smiths. Chiefs need some fire at QB

[Black Bob]

This is a really nice breakdown of Mahomes. I just don't see him as a first or second day pick and I see more bad than good.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com...le-edged-sword

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Black Bob

This is a really nice breakdown of Mahomes. I just don't see him as a first or second day pick and I see more bad than good.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com...le-edged-sword

Someone fixes the kids footwork, by and large his biggest issue, look out. He'll learn with more experience the type of things he can't force.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Someone fixes the kids footwork, by and large his biggest issue, look out. He'll learn with more experience the type of things he can't force.

His footwork reminds me of Manzel's. He always throws off his back foot when throwing deep. Even in the clips where he does something well in the article. I think it will scare most off.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

He is passionate about football, no doubt about it.

He needs mentoring. And this staff could give it to him.

Teams aren't going to overlook what he did to Alabama and LSU and the defenses they fielded.

Dismissed from Clemson after a squabble with coaches in 2014. Had to go the JC route.

Arrested outside a Buffalo bar after threatening to “get my AK-47 and spray this place” after he was thrown out and subsequently got into an altercation with police upon his arrest (he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a conditional discharge that included community service).

Ran onto the field in Buffalo to fight high school students.

DM'd porn star Mia Khalifa repeatedly, even after she shamed him publicly.

Had his second ACL tear to end his 2016 season.

[chiefscafan]

Posted it in another thread but this belongs here my thoughts on Watson.

I gotta be honest guys I'm a born Alabama fan and what I've seen from Watson last two years was remarkable. I saw two years ago an overmatched Clemson team play toe to toe with one of the best Bama teams of alll time. Watson just kept bringing his team back time and time again. I saw this year a QB play one of the worst halfs of football I've ever seen. I watched him come back with such amazing poise and leadership that I msgd my friends and said Bama is gonna lose because of him.


Now to the detractors yes he overthrew and under threw receivers, but the kid was on the sidelines rallying his team.

Those that have known me over the years know I was screaming for us to take russel Wilson based on what I saw against Bama when he played for NC State. All I heard was he's too short he misses passes etc now look at him.

Gentleman and ladies the combine and tape can show you stats and highlights but the one thing it can't judge is leadership ability and Watson has this. I have no doubt if we got him we would solve our needs. Sorry for long post but felt like I needed to say something bout this subject.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Mayock was on the Ross Tucker podcast and wasn't too enthused with this years QB class.

Says that right now he doesn't see any for sure franchise QB's and he doesn't think any of them are worthy of a top 10 pick.

Mentioned that Browns fans should feel frustrated after passing on Carson Wentz last year because there isn't a QB worth taking at 1 or 12.

Likes some of the tools that Trebisky has, but just can't get over the fact that he was a one year starter who couldn't beat out Marquise Williams.

Said he'd be scared to the death to draft a QB in the top 10 this year.

Also talked about Kizer (highest ceiling), Watson (poor decision making/accuracy), Nate Peterman (some people compare to Cousins, Mayock doesn't know if he's an NFL starter), Mahomes (doesn't play within the offense, gunslinger who's fun to watch)

Mayock's segment starts at 15:08

[The Franchise]

Let Kizer fall. Let it ****ing happen.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Mahomes (doesn't play within the offense, gunslinger who's fun to watch)

I will take this all day...having a QB who is "fun" to watch.

[Willie Lanier]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Posted it in another thread but this belongs here my thoughts on Watson.

I gotta be honest guys I'm a born Alabama fan and what I've seen from Watson last two years was remarkable. I saw two years ago an overmatched Clemson team play toe to toe with one of the best Bama teams of alll time. Watson just kept bringing his team back time and time again. I saw this year a QB play one of the worst halfs of football I've ever seen. I watched him come back with such amazing poise and leadership that I msgd my friends and said Bama is gonna lose because of him.


Now to the detractors yes he overthrew and under threw receivers, but the kid was on the sidelines rallying his team.

Those that have known me over the years know I was screaming for us to take russel Wilson based on what I saw against Bama when he played for NC State. All I heard was he's too short he misses passes etc now look at him.

Gentleman and ladies the combine and tape can show you stats and highlights but the one thing it can't judge is leadership ability and Watson has this. I have no doubt if we got him we would solve our needs. Sorry for long post but felt like I needed to say something bout this subject.

I want no part of Watson...

He seems like a good kid, but I just have an internal sense that he's going to be rg3 part deaux (meaning he'll have an encouraging rookie season, and then slowly fade away into the what ifs)

But hey, I'm rooting for the kid...

Just not as a chief

[Willie Lanier]

Mahomes however; I would be willing to roll the dice with

[Chief Roundup]

Every mock I have seen by the top analysts Trubisky, Mahomes and Kizer all go in the top 13.

[kccrow]

McShay's recent mock doesn't have Kizer nor Mahomes in round 1. Watson at 2 and Trubisky at 12.

Kiper also only had Watson and Trubisky in round 1 in his first mock back on Jan 19.

Jeremiah has Watson at 10 and Trubisky at 23, no others in round 1.

Brooks has Trubisky at 2 and Watson at 27, no others in round 1.

Zierlein has Trubisky at 2 and Watson at 10, no others in round 1.

Reuter has Watson at 1, Trubisky at 3, and Kizer at 6.

Burke of SI has Watson at 2, Trubisky at 6, Kizer at 12, and Mahomes at 25.

Cherepinsky has Trubisky at 3, Kizer at 10, Watson at 23, and Mahomes at 25.

Rang has Trubisky at 2, Watson at 6, and Kizer at 12.

Brugler has Trubisky at 2, Kizer at 3, and Watson at 10.


I'm not seeing a trend that Mahomes and Kizer are ending up in the top 13....

[Quesadilla Joe]

From Albert Breer's MMQB column...

• Mitch Trubisky is the leader among quarterbacks. There are two knocks against Trubisky: 1) Scouts aren’t sure how tall he’ll measure out; 2) He only started one year at North Carolina, unable to beat out Marquise Williams before that. Taking that into account, Trubisky’s anticipation, accuracy, touch and experience with progression reads put him atop the class.

“I’ll be shocked if Trubisky’s not the first one off the board,” said our AFC exec. A scout for another AFC team added, “You’re gonna see the ascension of the Carolina quarterback. He’s the guy, a Top 2 or 3 pick. He’s the guy. … A lot of teams like him up there.”

So here’s the question: Are you have to comfortable taking an Andy Dalton or Teddy Bridgewater in the Top 5? The truth is, Trubisky’s promise is in offering a team stability—but not necessarily superstardom—at the most important position.


• You’re projecting with the rest of the QBs. One AFC college scouting director told me that DeShaun Watson is at least a year away from being able to run an NFL offense, and DeShone Kizer is two years away. Ex-Texas Tech teammates Patrick Mahomes and Davis Webb (who transferred to Cal) have talent, but both come from schemes that complicate their NFL transition. (Think Jared Goff.)

You’ll hear this is a bad quarterback draft. I’ve heard that from some people, and that it’s not as terrible as advertised from others. “It’s a good quarterback class,” said our NFC exec. “Realistically, all five of those guys go in the first two rounds.”

If that happens, it wouldn’t exactly be unprecedented, but that doesn’t happen every year. There have been five occasions (2014, ’12, ’11, ’07, ’06) since 2000 where five quarterbacks went inside the first two rounds, and only one (2011) where the number was higher than that.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/02/10/n...pects-notebook